What Volume do you listen at?


When you sit and listen actively to your stereo, what volume do you like to set it at?

I am thinking about replacing my mediocre system with a new High Dollar System ($30K). My guess is that when you have High End gear, you naturally want to play the music at a higher volume. Is that true for you?

I have a RadioShack Analog Sound Level meter. It tells me that when I have music on in the background I set it at about 50 dB. When I set it at what seems right for serious listening, it is more often 75 or 80 dB.

One implication of this is where I will put my new listening room. I had intended to put it in our living room (pictured in the link above). However, if I will be always wanting to play so loud that my wife will complain, perhaps I should set up a room in our basement.
hdomke
According to my RatShack SPL meter, I listen between 50-70. Anything above that and it just hurts my ears.
Years ago, I made a post here about volume level, the main thrust of which was that for any given piece of music there is only one volume level that is correct. I, obviously, didn't invent anything here as this comes from a recording engineer of some repute. I had even postulated that every record should have some built-in benchmark indicating what that proper level should be.

You are right on one thing: a better system will be way more dynamic and, while the average SPL might be similar to what to you get with a smaller system, the uncompressed dynamics is where you will get your money's worth.

A dedicated listening room is really a must for serious listening in order to keep some semblance of peace in the house.
My guess is that when you have High End gear, you naturally want to play the music at a higher volume.

I've found this to be untrue, especially with fully acoustic music. If the system has good resolution, dynamics and a low noise level, the urge to crank it up actually decreases in my experience.

However, if you are into head-banging rock at live concert levels, maybe you have a point. I don't enjoy the jet-engine sound level of many live rock concerts so I certainly have no urge to recreate that in my home.

However, if you are currently listening at 75 or 80 dB it sounds like you're in my league. I doubt that you'll be turning things up with a new system. Hopefully you'll just be enjoying it more.
The basement is the way to go, assuming you can AC/Heat it and that that equipment can be isolated so as not to provide a nasty 'noise' floor. That being said, what you are looking for is 'live' music levels of volume. Everything else becomes just background music, and Bose can take care of that without spending $30K. When I built my last house I created in the basement a custom designed listening/media room. High WAF, live music/movie listening levels that could not be heard outside the room, no comprise with speaker placement. You can tweak forever. Looking at your picture I see the 'wife' every where, it will never work, especially with all the glass. Believe me, living rooms are like 'dressy' dresses, and you know who rules there. A small tip if you are going to the basement, put a two inch exterior, heavily striped door at the main floor entrance door to the basement. Also use these type of door every where a door is needed in the basement space. Look into Armstrong Wave ceilings and put heavy carpet on the floors and achieve a 'dead' room, then all you hear are the speakers without any room colorations. So, spend $10K on the room, and $20K on the equipment. You will never regret it.
Grand Piano = 110 db SPL, Drum Set = 115 db SPL...if you like live music or have ever played any instruments then you will know that music is loud because instruments are intended to be heard by others.

Furthermore your ear can handle from 120 db SPL to 0 db SPL (of course 120 db should be transients and never continuous) . Therefore if you want to benefit from the dynamic range inherent in real live music on your playback then you need a system capable of playing around 105 db spl continuous (with 10 db headroom) at your listening position. If this is 3 meters back then you need about 115 db SPL continuous (125 if you include peaks) from the speaker itself.

This will allow you to play any music at realistic levels. Of course you will rarely (if ever) listen to much above 95 db SPL continuous, however, transients can easily go much higher and it is the dynamic contrast which is partially what makes music lively and exciting. Rock concerts are at 105 db SPL and with a good stage system and can actually sound extremely good.

Depending on where you live the noise floor will usually be somewhere around 30 db SPL.

If you play music at 80 db SPL then 80 less 30 is 50 db spl and you have limited the dynamic range of what you hear to 50 db SPL. This is probably ok for rock or pop or small ensemble music but will almost certainly limit you in classical music with full orchestra where you get huge dynamic range in the music.

Greater dynamic range will allow you to hear more detail in the music. Natural uncompressed music rarely sounds loud or fatiguing. Stereos mainly sound loud because of distortion. The perception of "loud" is linked to distortion. Music at 80 db SPL with distortion will sound louder than music at 95 db SPL with no distortion.

At $30 K you may be able to find something that can play with close to the full range dynamics of real live music without much distortion. Likely you will want to keep turning it up if there is no distortion.