Help w/sale to Ireland, please. Need quick answer


Any added risks with shipping 60 lbs. parcel express mail to Ireland and also accepting Paypal from Ireland?
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If the buyer does not pay the latter costs, UPS's brokerage arm will look to you for those amounts. So price the sale accordingly.

If the buyer does not pay local taxes, he will not get the item. The item will be returned to the seller. There is NO WAY the seller beeing charged import duties or other taxes.
If the buyer does not pay local taxes, he will not get the item. The item will be returned to the seller. There is NO WAY the seller being charged import duties or other taxes.


Strangely enough Elberoth2, Tiger is correct and you are wrong. I found out the hard way, believing as you do on this topic.

Two weeks ago I got into a knock down drag out with FedEx over this exact ruling, and I've had an account with them for more than 20 years. I filled out a waybill at FedEx.com for overseas shipment and there are two options for tax and duty, shipper or recipient.

When you choose recipient, a pop up window asks for THEIR account number. Well, if recipient had an account number I would have been using that all along. So, I checked the box designating recipient pays tax and duty anyway and continued the process.

After printing the waybill I noticed the receipt listed MY account number for taxes and duty. I called FedEx international for assistance, assuming I had clicked a wrong radio button.

That's when I found out tax and duty falls back on my account if things don't go as expected.

I said, "Look, it's simple, don't give them the merchandise until they pay"

FedEx says, "Sometimes these things fall through the cracks, and in that case the shipper is responsible. Perhaps you should charge the customer for that up front."

In other words, if they screw up, I get the 10% to 30% value of item charged back on MY FedEx account.

I cancelled the shipment and called UPS. UPS has the same policy. The solution is don't open a UPS account. Go to a UPS store (not UPS main office) and pay cash for the shipment overseas and keep the receipt.

If they are too stupid to collect the tax and duty, it falls on UPS. They cannot come after me because I filled out the form and already paid at my end and there is no account for them to charge to.

If the parcel is returned, they would contact me to come pick up, at which time I would pay any fees and refund ONLY the remaining balance from what the customer paid for the item in the first place.

This way the buyer nor I get screwed. I cannot control the box once it leaves my hands but I won't be held responsible for the shippers incompetence or a buyer that tries to skip on paying at their end. I don't want to hurt anyone but also don't want to get screwed.

It's unfortunate it has become so difficult.
Albert - I have imported more stuff to EU that I can recall, and I was never/ever been able to reclaim the goods before paying the VAT tax and duties. There was simply NO WAY to do so.
I don't question you Elberoth, just posting my experience with FedEx and UPS at the USA end.

If I could be 100% certain that putting my number in the tax slot would not hammer me one day, I would not worry about it. The problem comes not from you, but maybe someone who's in a hurry, signs for the item and walks off.

Maybe the agent is busy, maybe waiting to go to lunch or talking to their loved one? I just know that IF something can go wrong and you risk it often enough, you will get clobbered.

I don't want to wind up in a contest with FedEx, me claiming they are wrong and I don't owe and them saying my account is on hold and (possibly) turning me over to collections because I refuse to pay duty (they) screwed up on.

If you think I'm over reacting, I have a friend who is part of my music group (and reviews for Dagogo) who no longer has a FedEx account. This exact thing happened to him, he refused to pay and they are still fighting.

I just can't risk it, it's NOT you. It's the possibility of incompetence of some official out of my reach that can slap charges on my invoice.
OK, fair enough Albert. But then it seems that Fedex is trying to charge you friend for the fault of THEIR agent, who relased the stuff before collecting the taxes.