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120hz hum coming from all-tube system - but only at high volumes

I generally listen to my system at 8-9olcock on the volume dial.  A friend and I were pushing the dial up to 11-12 oclock and a fairly loud 120hz hum would start to appear after a while.

Bringing the dial back down would eliminate it.  You could then pushing it back up and it'd be fine for a bit and then then hum would reappear.

Do I have bad tubes somewhere?  Ground loop that only rears its head occasionally at high volumes?


(System is Manley Steelhead pre, Manley Mahi's mono amps, Forman Elite-15 PFi power conditioner, schiit yggdrasil DAC, Klipsch Forte IV speakers)
otherones
audition__audio
1,494 posts
 
First you need to be aware of the difference between a hum and tube/system noise. To me at least the 2 are not easily confused. 

Usually microphonics is a ring or a howl, but to be certain tap around your components to see if the tapping transfers.
elliottbnewcombjr
5,461 posts
 
I suggest you get thee a simple tube tester to help diagnosing this problem and have for the rest of your life

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=tube+tester&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_...

make sure you get the manual or can download it.

I am going to part with my 157, works just fine, I recently bought it’s bigger brother 257. tested my preamp’s 17 tubes on both to confirm, they agree with each other on their meters. 

seller says this one has problems, just to show a 157

https://www.ebay.com/itm/274957651485?hash=item4004c0ce1d%3Ag%3APQUAAOSwHeZhS3Ng&LH_BIN=1

this 257  to see it, this one also has comments

https://www.ebay.com/itm/393411222024?hash=item5b9922da08%3Ag%3Aki4AAOSwcXhgzNw-&LH_BIN=1


ghdprentice
7,022 posts
 
60 cycle… I am thinking is what you mean. All ground loops I have experienced have been at low volume or almost none. It is a trickle behind the scenes and does not increase in volume… it is like a, well little trickle of water behind the scenes. So, I don’t think that is what it is.
dill
2,530 posts
 
Pull the power conditioner out of the system and listen for the hum.
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holmz
2,328 posts
 
The power supply using rectifies and the 60 Hz gets doubled to 120 Hz… Hence I would be looking at the power supply side of things.

It could be a capacitor on the power supply side is bad, but that is mostly a guess.
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