A full range speaker?

I am amazed at how far off track this post has wandered. What, on the low end, defines a "full range" speaker to you; 20-60 hz? Lower or higher than that, that’s ok to say too.

Where do you define a full range speaker for yourself? Of course top end is ok too, if you want, but that is much easier to achieve. How you get there is up to you, and not really important to the original post, because thats where the quibbling starts.


Mine is 28 hz, 0db down at my preferred listening level. So, very few speakers can lay claim to being full range if that is true to me, and right now I need a sub. So, i consider all of my speakers wide range, but not full range.

WEll seems Wilson is defining what Full Range is, the cabinets are fulll of drivers, 
There is not 1 fq missing. To me thats FULL packed range. 
Sorry not interested. 
Seas Millenniumk twee rolls off the top end, but the low mids are super fidelity and voice as accurate as any Magneplanar, Sound labs, Quad 57 human voicing. 
I think the new flagship Cresendo has extended the top end. 
IMHO full range is 60hz-12k hz. 

william53, I think that is what I have been trying to tell you. Unless you want to go for an ESL with subwoofers, the best you can do with dynamic drivers is a two way system with subwoofers. It is easier to control and engineer a passive two way crossover than it is to control and engineer the mechanical crossover you have in these so called full range loudspeakers. Anything with a whizzer cone is not full range, it is two way. The crossover is mechanical as the whizzer cone becomes decoupled from the woofer/midrange cone. The ESL is the only truly full range driver but it still IMHO requires subwoofers. An ESL will do 28Hz to 20 kHz but removing 100Hz down cleans up the sound so much that you are better off crossing to subs. I cross at 120 Hz. Above that it is all one way. Not that everything is perfectly rosy, it is not. There are two transformers, several resistors and caps involved between the amps and the ESL panel.  

Anything with a whizzer cone is not full range

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No indeed, it is not, 
There is some roll off in the lows/highs.
But I can tell you , this lil 4 incher packs a  nice lil kick in the upper bass. and highs are not so rolled off, at least for classical music, 
For jazz, yeah you want more of the shimmer and glitz on top end.
I am using it more of a  upper bass - upper mids driver.
The W18's now at 10uf go up to 1600hzish and so there is a huge overlap with the W18 and 4 inch whizzer, The 4 goesc down to say 100hzish. As i say has some punch for a lil guy
Highs aint too shabby either.
Vocals accurate, 
Stress/distortion  glares  in full orch explosions/huge chorus.
But livable.
I think folks need to be aware the whizzer full range is onlya  LIMITED wide band, Not a  FULL range. 
Again, for my tastes in orch, its more full rich ofa  image vs a  1 inch dome tweeter.
I'd a  whizzer cone can be considered full range as in the sense 90% of the music is voiced by the driver.
A better name for these drivers is a  90./
Other **full range** were not even 90%
More like 70% of the fq's voiced. 
making these lower Q drivers , near worthless for my usage/intentions.
Lii fast 8 old model 70% 
DavidLouis Diatone 6.5 70%. 
The Vox was even lower. 

@myjostyn

I am not looking for a solution, I can build bass horns that go down to 20 hz, and will shake my family room off of my house. How to get there is not the question, it is: 

What do you consider full range as a definition of a speaker catagory?

Because it is term that is used without any definition of what the term means. As far as I can see it's just a marketing term.

 I'd just like to find out what people consider that to be, so we can establish some sort of credible definition.