About users with hidden agendas

Well said @rixthetrick 

I'm going to quibble with this because the self-described "objectivists" here are often anything but. I think it is more accurate to call them measurementalists. They pretend to know how things sound without ever actually listening to them, will insist that they know what you can or cannot hear in your own room, and cling to their beliefs with a fundamentalist's religious fanaticism.

@cleeds wow, ^that^ was a divisive post.

Personally, I am disinclined to pretend that I can see the emperor is wearing clothes, when I don’t see them.

All speakers <have> resonance

Isn’t that the truth, there’s no escaping it, the best that can be expected is to use engineering control measure to lesson it as much as possible.

One way, the way I was shown, is to divide the larger surface areas into smaller nodes, this attenuation to specific nodes hopefully lessens the amplitude of the energies and divides the panels into smaller zones. The differential bracing should never be evenly spaced, creating multiple nodes not relatively close to the same frequency of another.

Just as using the same drivers to accomplish more SPL for the same frequencies, these cabinet nodes will sum to produce more cabinet resonances. Divide and conquer isn’t a joke when bracing an enclosure.

mahgister I’m glad you tried loaded mass speaker isolation, I’m guessing you’re glad also??!!

My system has come leaps and bounds since I’ve been learning from forum members here. The importance of all sorts of things I’d never really considered important have become the most transformative things I hear working, by taking out the sonic trash so to speak.

@holmz - thanks

Before all my tuning of the speakers, so good they are well spoken of in all reviews with no negative criticism at all, they not impress me in my nude non controlled room and with no mechanical or electrical noise floor control 5 years ago... After my Tannoy especially, which were on another design quality  level...

But with all my work they sound very well better than anything i listen to even magneplanar in a non tretated and non controlled room and even my past Tannoy..

Upgrading seems foolishness to me... They are not the best speaskers at all for sure but the piano is there in my room...It is enough...

Mechanical and electrical control is great improvement, but acoustic is the only key to audio in small room..Not thebranded name of the speaker... I dont trust anyone vouching for a brand in audio... Guess why?

Too many good brand anyway for all many tastes ans needs...

People dream about 100,000 amplifier price tag without even knowing how to create a room for them... Think about that.... 😁😊

If i judge the results with youtube limittations for sure no costly gear is for me not even necessary at all...

Acoustic rule....

But suppose i am right and that all consumers know that truth ?

It will be the downfall of electronic engineering market evolution ... I dont want this fall, electronical design improvement is a good thing and small business need this profit margin to do their research... And most people are unable to do their time consuming acoustic homework anyway.... Most people really think that they listen to their gear not to the room...

But i will tell you a secret, Acoustic alone is the key... Dont repeat it....

mahgister I’m glad you tried loaded mass speaker isolation, I’m guessing you’re glad also??!!

The only good box speaker is no box speaker.

What's your secret, secretguy?