Albert Porters after market panzerholz plinths

++++ " Even seems to me that my SP-10s and Denon's could perform even better with out its metal bottom cover. I don't try it yet but maybe is time to make this test and see what happen. " +++++

Regards and enjoy the music,
raul.

Mike is not suggesting running the Technics MK 3 nude. His comment does not support what you've been pressing since the beginning of this thread.

One Technics MK3 renovation by Dobbins removes the MK3 top cover with speed switches (which is often damaged) and puts the rest of the table into his heavy plinth. Speed change is still accomplished at the motor controller.

I leave the cover and switches and support the entire works with a heavy brass rod attached to an iron block fastened to the chassis with stainless steel. This mechanism locks down any vertical movement and flex while absorbing motor vibration.

I have no doubt Steve has addressed this problem in another way and gets excellent results. With either method, both of us and most others such as the famous original constrained layer MK3 plinth by Akito Knita rely on multi laminations, mass and constrained layers to bring out the best performance of these powerful tables.

Dear Mike/Albert: I'm not asking and don't need that you support nothing I posted.I know exactly what Mr. Doobins made because I seen at his place.

In my personal nude version I can't go with out the top " case " only the bottom one because I need it ( the top one ) to put on place the AT footers.

The subject is that many " things that surround the original SP are resonance/vibrations focus so is good to work with out it.

Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.

Dear Mike and friends: You posted: +++++ " although i have not listened that way myself, i would be skeptical it would be optimal. " +++++

I think this statement, that I respect, said all about nude version discusion:

+++ although i have not listened.... +++++

My subject is not if I have reason or not. I already heard several DD TT with different new plinths and the nude version. At least what I'm saying is because I heard it.

All the ones that are " skeptical " on the subject never had the opportunity to heard a nude version and the ones that in direct or indirect way are already in the commercial plinth market have no interest about.

Enough and useless to go on from my part.

Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.

Dear Lewm: On other topic: TT torque. I would like what do you think on the whole torque subject?

In a home system IMHO we really don't need that fast start/stop that the SP-10 or DP100 or EMT has and that was asked in Radio broadcasting job or for Djs. These TTs were not designed for audiophile specific needs.

I never had on hand the today DD Monaco design and I can't speak if comes with that kind of very high torque.

We really need it? or a DD design for home systems really does not need it and maybe could work/perform better with lower torque? what do you think?

Maybe Teres too could put some light on this important TT characteristic? or Monaco TT owners and of course any one that could share his experiences about.

Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.

Raul,

The DP100 was very specifically designed for audiophiles. Denon sold their DN-307s and 308s for radio station and other pro use. The people at Denon's affiliated repair place are adamant about that. The Denon DN-308F is also a high-torque beast.

From everything I have been able to find out the SP-10MkII and Mk3 as are seen and used by audiophiles were specifically designed for audiophiles. The broadcast-use tables had different features.

I can't speak for the EMTs. The EMT lookalike Sony PS-X9 was sold to radio stations and audiophiles alike burI can't find any evidence they were ever used in Japan in radio stations though I have seen a couple of absolute 'beaters' in my time, which indicates to me it is possible. I know of two people, one in Germany and one in the UK who have ex-radio station PS-X9s. Most of them in Japan were audiophile-bought/owned.

The Exclusive P3 and P3a, the Onkyo PX-100M and the Lo-D TU-1000 were also very expensive audiophile-oriented high-torque tables without a broadcast market.