All Pre 1970 Vintage speakers suck! Prove me wrong


Have tried many vintage speakers.

My conclusion: All pre-1970 vintage speakers suck. Well-made but crappy  sound.

Used with both vintage amps and modern.

I do like many vintage amps such as Radio Craftsmen RC-500, Marantz tube, Scott tube, Heath W5, Lafayette and Pilot tube.

But back to pre-1970 speakers:

No bass, harsh, or honky mids and no highs. Not musical or listenable to me.

Tried many including Acoustic Research AR-3a, 2Ax, etc. The entire AR product line. Also Klipsch Horn, Large EVs. Altec VOTT. Pioneer CS-88 and 99.

Nothing pre 1970 is even close to the better modern speakers.

I challenge you: Prove me wrong.

lion

The list of speakers that were so bad I could eliminate them in a showroom is so long it would not fit on this page. Price not withstanding.  Instead let me mention a few that were at least listenable.  If I lived in NY, maybe I could hear a wider selection, but between the DC, Richmond and Piedmont area not so many.

On the way-above-what-I could-pay, the newest Wilsons have gotten much better. The big Sonas Fabers, big Maggies, big Martin Logans I could live with, but I am limited to stand mount and an income not in the top 1/2%.  They all still have severe shortcomings.   If one was "right" everyone would copy it and they would all sound the same. Even price-no-object, they sound very different.  If two are different, at least one is wrong. 

Dropping down to what semi-normal  audiophile people can buy, The Mofi 8 was not too bad. 2Ce's continue to fill the "do no wrong" slot.  I want to hear the mid-tier Sonas Fabers but no one has them. Same, upper end Dunaudio I would like to hear.  

Moving down to entry,  the SF Lumina's were nice.  Revel's are at least balanced, but the tweeters get to me. 

At the level higher than 99% of the market who just buy a Wal-Mart sound bar or Bose system, the Elac 2.1s are better than I could build for the price. I have a pair, slightly modified, in my woodshop. 

  A lot of speakers may be better if the showrooms had any eq as they are so bright it they make my fillings hurt. ( Hear that B&W, Paradigm, Canton!) I still have never heard ANY hard dome I could tolerate and the new AMTs are even worse.  A few ribbons are OK at nearfield low level, but horrible otherwise.  Basically can't stand horns, but I wish I could have heard a Geddes. 

If there was any speaker that was the biggest disservice to High Fidelity, it was the Bose 901.  Singularly one of  the worst  speakers I ever heard. Diffuse sound yea, but mushy ill-defined bass, honky mids and no highs. The 301 was a much better speaker.  Bad eq aside, their mids were relatively low distortion. 

Send me a working set of Western Electric 12a and 13a speakers, two of each if you don't mind, and I will tell you if I think they suck. It may take me a while to tell, so don't be in a hurry.

Cherry,

Sorry, no can do, but we can send you to the Munich show where Sibatone (Korean) does a display like that with one set on the floor, the other inverted and suspended in the air.  In the U.S., if you ask nicely, Deja Vu Audio in Northern Virginia might play their gigantic 16A horn (you can walk inside if you crouch just a little bit).  That horn has a tweeter on top, but no woofers attached, so the bass is thin (555 driver is run full range).