Another Analog v. Digital Thread? Not Really


I’ll try to keep this as short as possible. The premise is this: If the highest compliment that can be given to digital is that it sounds analog, why bother with digital? I would never have posted this question, but the other week something happened. After owning my Oppo 205 for about a year and a half, I decided to sell it given the fact I wasn’t that crazy about it and the selling prices were quite good, although I posted mine for significantly less than many others are asking. BTW - In the last month I owned the Oppo, I found it tremendously improved by placing a Vibrapod 3 under each foot.

So a nice young man comes by for an audition and he likes the Oppo very much and purchases it. He is into 4k and all that stuff, but also wants some better audio quality. So that’s that.

Before he leaves, he asks to hear a vinyl record played on my Basis turntable. It’s a nice table - 2001 with Vector arm and Transfiguration Orpheus. I would rate it as the low end of the high end. Well the guy’s jaw just dropped. After sitting for an hour listening to the Oppo, he says that everything is so much more "alive" was the word he used and he couldn’t get his mind around the fact that he was listening to the exact same system with everything the same except the source.

I was considering replacing the Oppo with something like a Cambridge transport and Orchid dac because I have to play my CDs, right? But then I starting thinking why I had to play CDs anymore at all. It’s not so crazy when you think about it. Many of us gave up vinyl when CDs started getting decent, so what’s so strange about going back in the other direction?

So I asked myself - if analog is so much better, why would I even bother listening to CDs anymore?
Convenience? Well, sure, but I don’t really consider putting on a record very inconvenient, so that’s not really it.
Many titles on CD that are not on vinyl? I think that argument may be largely dissipated nowdays. It seems that virtually anything I would remotely want to listen to is available on vinyl, either new or used. You have thousands of CDs? OK, but if they don’t sound as good as a record, why would you want to listen to them just because you have them. I know it seems like a waste, but it happens sometimes.

Let me just finish with this, so there’s no confusion. If you have some insane high-end digital rig that you believe outdoes analog, this is not directed to you. But, for anyone who believes the best compliment you can give to digital is that it sounds analog, why bother? Also, to you streamers out there, the freedom from having a large quantity of physical media in your home is definitely a good argument. We all collect too much stuff and it’s nice to get rid of some.

Hopefully, this will be taken in the spirit it’s given, but I doubt it.
Merry Christmas, really.
chayro
I recently did some comparison listening between my turntables, my CD player, and my streamer.  Vinyl won, but my CD player was not far behind, and while streaming came in last in terms of sound quality, it wasn't such a night and day difference that I can't stand to listen to it.  To the contrary, it sounds pretty good until I compare it to my vinyl system..

The "debate" for me has more to do with selection and convenience than sound quality.  Do I want to hear some new music that I might not listen to otherwise?  Put on some music and just let it play without fussing with anything?  Check out something I've never heard before?  Streaming is the answer.  Do I want to listen to something I don't have on vinyl, but want it to sound better than streaming and not have to start, stop, and flip records?  CD is the answer.  What is my first go-to?  Vinyl is the answer.

I'm probably not going to go spend $20 or more for a vinyl record that I could listen to along with dozens of others for my $15 a month music subscription service.  If I really like it, I might go buy the vinyl, but chances are I won't because so many newer vinyl pressings sound like crap and I'm running out of room.

Why limit your choices?
Apparently in @chayro's world classical music doesn't exist.  Try finding obscure releases of obscure repertoire by obscure composers on vinyl.  And yes, my listening is more repertoire-driven than sound-driven.
The OPPO is known to be a "dry" sounding player.

There are many warm, analog sounding, newer D to A converters being made today, that match LP playback.

Many consumers are just not aware of them!
@larryi - the Naim 555 series are in a class by themselves.  I could definitely give up analog for a 555 CD player.  And I don't know if I'll give up digital.  It was just the first time it even occurred to me. 

@twoleftears  - you may be right about obscure composers, but I would say my lp collection is at least 50% classical, albeit pretty mainstream stuff.  But all I was saying is the argument that a lot of music is not available on vinyl is less true today than it was years ago.  If your music is not, that's certainly a good enough reason to stick with digital.