Another great gone, this time its Charlie Watts

Smirk on, Charlie, smirk on!

RIP

Re Roxy54’s comment:

I think Charlie Watts was a fine R&R drummer and probably the perfect drummer for The Rolling Stones. Solid time keeper with just enough looseness to give the band their distinctive rhythmic vibe. As has been pointed out a musician’s important strengths are not defined by speed and technical virtuosity, but by the ability to contribute to the whole of the ensemble in that ensemble’s style. He did that very well.

Having said all that, while much is sometimes made of Watts having been a Jazz drummer, a good Jazz drummer he was not. He may have been inspired or influenced by Jazz drummers, but he was not at home in that genre nearly to the degree that he was in R&R. I heard his touring Jazz tentet in NYC on two occasions several years ago featuring some really good Jazz players including the great Peter King on saxophone and it was clear that Watts was the weak link in the ensemble. In that context, rather monotonous playing without the required split second reaction to what the soloists were doing. Hard to do it all.

RIP

frogman,
Agree with your assessment. I had heard the jazz thing he did, and it wasn't very good. I really didn't mean to be a hair-splitting critic of the guy. He was a good fit for the Stones, personality wise and of course the way he played. I think his simplicity was brilliant on songs like Brown Sugar and Paint it Black, two that come to mind. He did his own thing, and it is sad to see him gone.

Some drummers have said. What makes you a great drummer is what you dont play.

Charlie didn’t have to be "perfect", or technically advanced. In fact, if he was he would sound out of place in a band with Keith Richards and Mick Jagger. Like the often-denigrated Ringo Starr, he was the right drummer for the group. As was Keith Moon for The Who. It is their trademark style that made their band’s what they were. At least Led Zeppelin realized Bonham couldn’t be replaced, and called it a day, as The Who should have. IMO.

My tastes run in a different direction: Roger Hawkins (Muscle Shoals studio drummer in The Swampers. The actor they got to play him in the new movie about Aretha Franklin---Respect---looks just like him. Keltner said in a Modern Drummer interview that he wished he played more like Hawkins. A FANTASTIC drummer!), Jim Gordon (Delaney & Bonnie, Derek & The Dominos, Clapton’s solo debut, All Things Must Pass, Traffic---along with Roger Hawkins, Spector productions. I acquired one of his Camco sets after he was sent up the river for killing his mother with a hammer. Beat her to death with it.), Levon Helm, D.J. Fontana (you had better know who he is ;-), Harry Stinson (Marty Stuart’s drummer in his band The Fabulous Superlatives, also a great harmony singer.), Kenny Buttrey (Dylan, Neil’s Harvest.), Buddy Harman (Roy Orbison, Patsy Cline, The Everly Brothers, Elvis, Brenda Lee, Tammy Wynette. That’s him on "Stand By Your Man", his drumming the epitome of taste, economy, subtlety, and most importantly musicality. As various Jazz greats have said: The notes you don’t play are as important as those you do.), Jim Christie (Lucinda Williams, Dwight Yoakam.), a lot of others most of ya’ll have never heard of.

I like drummers who "play the song". Those who listen for what a song needs, and play THAT, rather than what they think will impress other drummers. You know---gratuitous displays of empty technique. Musically inappropriate over-playing, way too busy. Drummers are generally kinda stupid (ever heard Carmine Appice speak? Oy.), present company and those named above excluded.

One of my favorite musician stories is the one told me by Evan Johns, who worked off-and-on with guitar virtuoso Danny Gatton (nicknamed The Humbler by Vince Gill.). It goes as follows:

Danny, speaking to his new drummer after the first set of his maiden live gig: "Hey, ya know all that fancy sh*t you play?"

The drummer: "Yeah."

Danny: "Don’t."