Anyone listen to Zu Audio's Definition Mk3?

Morgan,

Looking at the tube compliment of your amps I see 274Bs are acceptable. Buy a simple pair of Shuguang 274B rectis online--you can get them for $10 each if you shop around, and see if that brings you exactly what you're looking for. I'm blown away by what that cheap recti is doing in my AN211 as is a buddy of mine with them in his Tubeguru F2a monoblocks.

Thanks Gopher. I'll give that a try!

Morganc,
Do the nano drivers render the Zu more neutral or revealing than the Pendragon ? Was the Frankenstein 'warmer' with the Pendragon(is this speaker perhaps voiced warm?). The Frank`s sound does change significantly depending on choice of 300b selected.I`ve used EH golden grid,W.E. reissue version,Sophia Royal Princess and Takatsuki-TA 300b. Each tube actually makes the Frankenatein sound like a different amplifier.

The Sophia RP is excellent,the Takatsuki is simply sublime!
Regards,

Morgan,

I have the generic shuguangs, but after further discussing the tubes with 213cobra, it appears the "Preferred Series 274B" that tubestore sells for $30 have a stronger vacuum and may be 'better.'

If it were me I would drop $20 on a generic pair immediately and if I liked what I heard, keep them as a backup and get the better ones when I got around to it.

Hi Mrpaul, you're the most recent owner to praise the new Def4s. Mine are to be installed in exactly 2 weeks. They've been out for a pro review, so should be no bedding in issues.
I've bought them blind (deaf?) w/out audition to replace my beloved 2s, so this unanimous thumbs up is filling me with (cautious) confidence.
The thing I am most concerned about is whether there is any loss of the seductive Zu tone dense presentation, with perhaps a move to a more spotlit hi fi type sound.
I would hate it if improved treble extension, midrange transparency and bass control in the 4s led to a hyped up exaggerated presentation I moved away from in the first place going to Zu 5 years ago.
Deep down your comments as well as Phil's and Gopher's should mean this fear is unfounded, but as in so much of audio, new very rarely means truly improved.