Brulee, I believe you mean witless, no? :-)To my knowledge, there are only 2 of these conditioners currently, 1 at Chambers Audio Portland, you could email Jtinn: and 1 at David Robinsons, he could probably be reached through Audio Asylum. I was waiting to see if either responded to this thread, since they haven't Muratc could email each directly. I've not heard the new unit myself, but I do have a Sound Applications CFX that Jennifer Crock (Jena Labs) modified heavily as an early prototype of the new unit. It is outstanding. As to the cost of the new one, well that's a whole other discussion and has been beaten to death here before. Cost of gear ranks right along religion and politics. I'll pass, thank you.