Apples and oranges

All I’m  really saying is that systems of varying levels sound different.  Each of us is hearing a differing thing. I guess you’re right when you say intelligent discussion can still take place.

It sounds like you are really referring to the listener's knowledge and sophistication rather than their system.

I have had to pull away from the herd, as my hearing, tastes, and wives change.

Onhwy61, I agree! A listener's degree of knowledge and sophistication are what makes a discussion interesting and an open mind can make them productive. The problem inherent with this hobby is that the interest level amongst audiophiles is so divergent its hard to find two people on the same wave length. Too many false gods, I think.  The sonic value (as well as the financial value) of components being one of them. Sadly I think we have become a 'plug in' community. 

Onhwy61 and newbee,

  Very interesting take.