Are Martin Logan’s what they used to be?


I had a pair of Vista’s that sounded very good, amazing actually with vocals but they were always in need of maintenance. Replaced panels... both woofers... ML admitted the 8’s were an issue. 

I have AA 10t’s now and miss the Logan staging etc. I am in no way disappointed with the AA’s but just wondering about the new ML lineup. 

Opinions and facts are welcome.
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I have the older Monoliths with the "newer vapour deposited clear coating" esl panel which is what the Neolith use. And nothing ML makes save for the Neolith comes close. The linear power supplies and xovers are far superior quality to the newer stuff. quality poly caps, air core chokes ect ect. so is the "exterior" build quality. The ESL panels on the old ones were held by a frame solid, not flapping around in the breeze (say goodby to solid imaging) useless to spike these new ones they still flap, they need a support bar ala Quad https://www.stereophile.com/images/717quad.bac.jpg

Cheers George
They're not what they used to be if you mean do they have a lot of problems.  They have a 5 year warranty if purchased new, so the company stands behind them.

They also sound very good.  If you liked the sound of your older MLs, you'll like the newer ones.
They’re still bad with rock music and lack the coherence of better traditional cone and dome speakers.
I have the ESL11A’s and love them for me the staging is awesome rock,jazz,classical,folk,bluegrass all sound great. I’m only using a Linn Malik DSM to drive them
I have the ESL11A’s and love them for me the staging is awesome
Yeah!! pvmike, brace the top of the esl panel to the back of the bass box so it becomes rigid and doesn’t move back and forward, then come back and tell me just how much better the sound staging and imaging becomes.

Cheers George