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Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy

"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

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vonhelmholtz
911 posts
 

@gosta 

As long as you are happy with your system,  it doesn't matter how you got to where you are at.  The whole point is to enjoy the music.

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gosta
839 posts
 

@laoman

I use a dedicated mediaserver with Roon => Storm 16-channel processor =>

Storm 4 x 900 watt (8 ohm) Class d => Revel Ultima Salon 2 surround system + Velo 15DD+.

Dirac + Storm + Roon DSP.

ASR likes Storm and Salon 2 :-)

henry99
12 posts
 

@gosta 

ASR likes Storm and Salon 2 :-)

 

Amir has these speakers, so everyone gets them!

Too many times Amir will test a piece of equipment that someone loved and they wind up selling it like sheep.

Just to buy what he recommends.

Are you listing to your music or just buying what your told?

 

 

cd318
2,636 posts
 

@jtgofish 

But like any idealistic concept the enforcement can become toxic and counter-productive. Just like communism and religion.

 

Sadly that's all too often the case.

However, if anyone can resist the temptations of chasing wealth and fame, it's Amir.

He comes across as a man of principles.

Seemingly a rare thing nowadays.

 

@henry99 

Are you listing to your music or just buying what your told?

 

No doubt the Salon 2s are good speakers. It would even seem as if Revel themselves are unable to improve upon them.

However, that's a good question. 

Whether we like it or not, it's impossible to hear everything that's out there, and so we have to turn to third party opinions.

But exactly whose should we trust?

Personally I'd put forums like this ahead of any paid opinion. Old habits die hard but years of disappointment also have an effect.

Eventually.

 

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thyname
3,107 posts
 

However, that's a good question. 

Whether we like it or not, it's impossible to hear everything that's out there, and so we have to turn to third party opinions.

But exactly whose should we trust?

You are right about that. I fully understand you. This is why ASR wins. Right or wrong, it does no matter. It’s a fact. And they realized that, and they win. They make it a business. Lots of crap in the Internet, and people don’t know what you believe. The key is to get as much exposure as possible: own experience, audio shows, dealers, shops, friends, and internet people you know align with your tastes. If these are not possible for some reason, yes, your turn to …., whatever 

 

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