Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy
"Audiophiles are Snobs" Youtube features an idiot! He states, with no equivocation, that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good. He is either deaf or a liar or both!
There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review. If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public. They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better. They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance. Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.
Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?
Hey guys, I'm just happy I came across that article demonstrating the fallacy of believing static measurements is all there is to know, and needed. Kind of reminds me of when Apple came out with those "moving" still images taken on an iPhone. When you took a photo, it was actually a very short video and when viewed, gave life to that photo that it never really could capture as a still image. All the best, |
Three things: 1. The stimulus is not static. A sine wave is time varying. A multitone is time varying and complex. Jitter signal (J-test) is also complex and time varying. Only DC signals are static which we don't use for audio testing. 2. For the most part, audio gear is state and memory less. The system performance doesn't change or rely on what came 1 second before current time. In that regard, "static" testing of this sort is quite appropriate. When testing systems that do have memory such as lossy audio compression (e.g. MP3), we cannot use this type of testing because they do have memory and adapt to signal to being encoded. There, we rely on controlled/blind listening tests. 3. I also using music files for such things as null tests of power cables and such. This is more done to do away with objections like yours more than being a need. |
Someone claimed that on ASR the more you donate, the higher your status. No such thing exists. Members can donate any amount of money they like. They will all get the same title. This is on purpose as to make sure you can't buy your way into have more privileges. Unlike other forums, donating to ASR doesn't get you anything extra *. You don't get exclusive or early access to content. Everyone sees the same information regardless of whether they have donated or not. Donations are entirely voluntary. * The only exception to above is that forum donors get to have longer edit time to their threads. This is because we trust them to not be destructive. It is not done to give them a benefit. |
@thyname Thank you for your concern. I haven’t spent much time on this forum and my metal well-being isn’t being threatened. I am a very stable 66 year old music lover. I’ve been a member since 2001.However, your warning that ASR militia can be possibly dangerous, does that mean physically violent? That means that this bear (ASR) is a radical leftist or rightist group who political affiliation is measurement audiophilia uber alles? Wow!Now I remember that one member had claimed in another ASR forum that he wanted to go next door and burn his neighbor. I assumed that burning one's neighbor is a violent act. He is a well known member. I also just noticed that someone just signed up to audiogon posting as amir_asr. Could that be the owner of ASR? That is scary! |
