Audiodesk Vinyl Cleaner Pro - Drying Issue

The general response on this issue is with regard to the shape and age of the white wipers (something I assume you’ve investigated). If not, there’s been quite a bit already written on this already just a google away.

Another factor to consider is the humidity of your room. A dry room (20-35% hygrometer reading) makes static build up a beast, BUT record drying (literally) a breeze. A dehumidifier can help with this - albeit create other vinyl sensitive issues via static.

I think the surfactant mix comment earlier by @noromance is a good path to follow. Too much or not enough has its own issues. If you read the bottle (the AD fluid) it says the solution is suitable for a 5L mix of distilled water. The machine, however, holds 4.5L. Thus, if you follow the bottle directions, you end up with extra fluid that you can use to top off the machine over time - essential if you have a highly evaporative/dry room like mine. The ratio of solvent to distilled water is different if you just mix the one bottle into 4.5L. In fact, if you never read the bottle instructions, every other piece of literature/review/video always references the machine capacity of 4.5L (not the actual instructions on the bottle label itself).

On another forum, Mike Lavigne (@mikelavigne also a longtime Agon community member) has experimented with different ratios of fluid:water with different results. A part of the solution is a drying agent - as well as anti-static solvent. Thus the proper mix for your machine, weight of vinyl lp (thick to thin), health of the white wipers, humidity of environment, temperature of your room, type of water you are using (Distilled, RO, DI, etc.), mixed with your own personal set of patience expectations = what to do next.

I hope this helps. And yes, for those wondering, I don’t have any drying issues on my year old-ish AD VC Pro. I also follow with a rinse cycle and vacuum dry on my Clearaudio RCM. An additional rinse makes a difference.

As with all things in this hobby: Everything matters. Good luck. Cheers.

As an aside, may I also suggest reading anything you can find by @Whart (Bill Hart of The Vinyl Press) or @Tima (Tim Aucremann) -- either here or elsewhere-- on the overall subject of record cleaning and most recently the implementation of ultrasonic cavitation with a mixed method approach to cleaning different records in different states of "un-cleanliness". I have yet to find a one-stop cleaning solution to any record -- which in the end is the ultimate takeaway from reading anything from the two vinyl adventurers I referenced earlier. Again, setting expectations is key, and I feel their work is best at calibrating what to expect. Convenience always compromises performance - but never puts it out of business. As Fremer likes to say, McDonald’s never killed the gourmet. Cheers.

Hi Mark,

>were you under the impression that the machine should fully and completely dry the records? 
Yes, I expected it to produce a dry, "sleeve-able" record at the end of the cycle especially when you consider the cost of the machine.

>are you ok with your work around?  Or do you feel that you should have your machine repaired?
I doubted that there actually was a fix for the problem so I never investigated. That being said, I hadn't considered the possibility of a bit more wetting agent (as mentioned by clo007). That seems like it's worth a try.

My work-around does the job but if you like to wash a record and drop it straight onto the turntable, the Audiodesk will only allow this sometimes.


Best, Fred

Thanks for the kind words, @cto007 
When I had the Audio Desk it would leave wet spots, I suspect much had to do with the 'lips' being wet from the wash cycle-- i know there was a modification on the original version to ameliorate that. Haven't used the "Pro"- though a friend is delighted with his, after having the original unit. 
The KL will leave spots occasionally- this is from wet edges around the slot.  
You guys would hate the Monks- it always leaves the edges (at 90 degrees to the face of the record) a little wet; in fact, when Monks rebooted the business, they briefly introduced a little tweezer-like thing with pads that you'd manually run around the edge of a record--that didn't work too well either, or so I'm told (it was discontinued, and I never tried it).  I just use a fresh microfiber cloth to dry the edges if necessary. 

thanks all, I appreciate the comments and ideas.  I have been happy so far with my workaround.  Using the anti-static photography film cloth to wipe the record a bit during the drying cycle.  I simply gently cup part of the record as it spins in the machine with the folded cloth, removing some excess moisture.  I do this for 1 revolution, and then let it continue the drying.  Kind of like using a and dryer in the mens room, and using a piece of paper towel at the same time, the effectiveness is increased dramatically.  I'm not saying this is an amazing solution, but so far so good.