The science was never settled years ago. The limits of our measuring was settled years ago. All some need is a visual representation of an approximation that we can all agree on as a standard to make them happy. Those standards are just guideposts until better measurements come along.
Go back anywhere in history and you'll see this same, boring discussion being hashed over with the flatearthers of their time mumbling that all they needed were the measurement standards of their time to go by and anything else was wishful thinking.
I remember a heated discussion here, years ago, about vibrations and what could and couldn't be measured (so it couldn't possibly exist) and some particle theorist (or someone of that ilk) chimed in with observations he and his team had with watching something that was so dense it couldn't possibly transmit sound or vibrations "dancing around" and doing the opposite of what was conventional wisdom, because they had better measurements to go by. Yet, talk to anyone who's not in that field and they'll still tell you you're crazy to think so.
These forums are not the cutting edge, sorry to say, and are way behind the curve. No one should take well written quotes and call them "science". Hiding behind those skirts is a sad thing to do.
Trust your ears.
All the best,
Nonoise
