BAT VK P5 VS P10


I presently own a P5 and would like to hear from others that have experience with these phono pre-amps, express and can share with me the sonic difference and how much better is the P10 over the P5.

Enjoy music!
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Hi Jfrech:

Thank you for the update, I have removed the 8-6922 stock Sovtek and replaced them with 6-6922 Jan Phillips low noise and 2-6922 Amperex Buggle Boys on the input were they say it is the most important on my present VK P5. I also replaced the 2-6ns7 stock Sovtek with 2-5692 RCA Red seals. and heard some improvement.

Reason for the curiosity, I am using a Orotofon Jubilee cartridge that has a .340mv output and knowing that the P10 has step up transformers which I could switch to low gain and bring the gain to 62db.

I presently use the high gain on the P5 and gain 6 db but feel at 56db is not still enough to drive the Jubilee and sonically achieving the full detail/dynamics of what that cartridge is capable.

enjoy music!
I suspect the XLR input on the p10 might be the help you need. It add's 6db of gain (plus being balanced which rejects more noise) with out using the transformers...and if you still need more the transformers are available.

I used those same tubes in my P10 when i had it...yes, nice help !
Wow, as much as 6db. I guess I will shop a P10 on the used market, Victor told me there are 3 revision PC boards and he mention that I would benefit from the latest revision, even for the SE mod, because he will no later mod the first two rev. due to excessive parts replacements.

Have you also heard that.
Jfrech is exactly right in everything he says. I have a P10SE with Superpak. It sounds better without using the transformers. The XLR input will provide the extra gain as mentioned and will have a lower noise floor also.
FYI - I recently sent my unit in to get the auto DC balance mod rather than adjusting the DC balance manually which I had been doing since I purchased the unit. Several months ago, Victor changed to an AC balance circuit which he feels works better than the DC balance circuit. That is the latest mod for the P10SE.
I really appreciate all the input given and will now patiencely wait til a P10 SE with a Superpak is offered. At this point reading all the reports and reading what is being mentioned here it makes only logical sense to search in that direction.

Again thank you for all the support on the matter.

Enjoy music!