Better Sounding Systems, Objectivists or Subjectivists?

@kr4 indeed, who likely listens to their systems more? Those of us who listen to our systems when making component purchases and set up decisions, or those who look at numbers and graphs? Put another way, do those of us who trust our ears listen to our systems more than people who do not trust their hearing to reliably choose ‘better sound’? And if you can’t trust your ears to arrive at better sound, how do you know if you have better sound in the first place? It seems to me people who don’t trust their ears, who have a fanatical opposition to those of us who do, are probably in the wrong hobby which at the end of the day, is all about enjoying our systems which is of course, totally subjective.

They both get great sound then gather together for a giant love fest. 

there are people who have been in this arena for some time, yet don’t trust their own ability to discern what sounds good or ’right’... lost souls in this pursuit as far as i am concerned

then there are folks who rely on measurements, must, just must have measurements to establish or confirm their beliefs -- this because of their training, or experiences in related or other fields...well, that may be understandable, as we are all products of our life experiences -- when you have relied on a hammer (and only a hammer) all your life, it is hard to see the world as anything else but a bed of nails

Binary question, 0 or 1 

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Can't we all just get a lawn 😢

It would seem that the objectivists 1st priority is to make sure the measurements are correct. Thus  the measurements inform them that the system sounds good, NOT the system's sound itself.