Building second system around Harbeth P3 esr


I bought the P3's a couple of months ago. I should have some cash soon to go forward with this system. My thoughts are the Croft Phono Integrated. Please share your thoughts on not only the amp choice, but what this systems strengths might be. I just want to listen at low to moderate levels, and be engaged. I wish they were more efficient, which is why I'm thinking Croft, which has a tubed stage, and SS amp.

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Nagaoka's are nice all around cartridges, and fairly reasonably priced. One can buy the cheapest cartridge and upgrade the stylus assembly up to the MP200 I believe.

Certainly so many various combinations to chose from, have fun and enjoy the little ride! Keep us posted on the Croft demo!

It’s a hard to be too critical of what I’m hearing from the Croft and P3’s. For my taste, it’s really quite engaging. It’s does that immersive tube thing, which allows me to forget I’m listening to a system. It has the color, but with an ever so slight opacity. In other words, I wish it was a tad more fleshed out. I also find it begins to sound strained when you go beyond mid/loud listening levels. The above said, I’m being critical, and I’ve heard 100K systems which I’ve enjoyed MUCH less. This combo has the right thing going on. For a one box solution, it’s really quite good. I think about a what a good 40 watt tube Integrated, like LM, would do for the P3’s. But then I’d need a phono stage, and another cable. I also think it would take a pretty good phono stage to beat the Croft. Wanting to keep things simple, I think the Croft, at it’s price, is a very nice amp. Plus, having Followed A’gon, and other forum comments about the P3’s, I’m not so sure a 35-40 watt tube amp is the answer. I would imagine this being less true as you go further up the Harbeth line.
Rolling out the 3 JJ 12AX7s for NOS Telefunkens will bring the Croft up a notch. I found the stock unit a little too creamy and warm, albeit very musical but lacking in inner detail.
I would agree on changing the stock tubes for the Telefunkens, definitely a nice improvement. Still, out of the box and stock, the little Croft is a very nice piece! One can certainly spend more and get a good deal less.....

All much appreciated (-:  It's nice to have just a few tubes, especially when dealing with NOS prices. frazeur1- funny you mentioned the MP-200. That's the one my dealer just got in. However, I am ONE turntable short at the moment. I plan to look at a new table for my main setup, that would take the place of my WT Amadeus. Then, the WT would move to the Harbeth & Croft system. If that falls through, I could see a Thorens TD160 Super with a Jelco fitting in very nicely within this setup. The Hana cartridges also have my interest. Does the Croft have enough gain to mate well with a High Output MC?