Cable Burn In

geoffkait said:

"Besides, all I was asking for in the example you provided is EVIDENCE. That doesn’t seem too much to ask. 😬 I’m not demanding PROOF. "

Okay, change my question to you asking for "EVIDENCE". The result is the same. You ask for evidence but then claim that nothing anyone introduces rises to the level of "EVIDENCE". Same difference. Still specious. And you're pretty much just parsing words to wiggle out of the trap you set for yourself.

And he also said:

"You do know the difference, I assume."

I know the difference between rational civil conversation verses someone being patronizing and insulting to cover up for the inconsistencies of his posts. And, no, I will not find that "EVIDENCE " for you. It is in black and white all over this forum and stands in stark contrast to almost every other member and post I've read on this otherwise extremely cordial site.

Again...the company he left does not see it necessary to make any such claims. That an engineer who left Belden makes claims about burn-in doesn't mean it's true.

Why would the company make such a claim? Their product is used in an industry where they're used as patch cords and made to be inserted and pulled out over and over and hold up to abuse at the hands of those in post production. Just slap them in you'll know they'll work. Mass production, even at a technical level, is still mass production, no matter how one tends to glorify it. You need the equipment to hold up to use and abuse. It has to work at a basic level, again and again. No need to talk down to those who don't work at your level as it's not germane to the discussion: it's a red herring meant to distract. 

Now take that level of engineering needed to do that and go a step or two further in refinement and you'd have a better cable for home use where you'd set it and forget it. The manufacturer needn't worry about the rigors of industrial use and pass on some sage advice so as to let it (the cable) settle in and do it's thing. 

The same reasoning you'd have as to doubt someone who worked at that level of expertise would ask the same of you. Who's to say? Tell me truly, is there anyone you work with who feels differently about cables? Do you have discussions about what's good enough for home use? Do you have co-workers who do indeed, use what they feel to be better cables than what you work with? Odds are, there simply has to be and I'm curious to know what they say. Are you in the minority or is what you feel about cables an industry standard?

All the best,
Nonoise
 

"But most Electrical Engineers that I’ve seen discuss this over the years, who aren’t part of a company trying to sell boutique cables, tend to dismiss the idea. "

What I have learned over the years is that electrical engineers (no matter what experience) talk more  rubbish than anyone. I continually hear them say "technically there is no difference" or "there is no reason for that". NEVER take much notice of them. Recently one said "mains cables make no  difference - a waste of money - just get a normal cable and stick it directly into the mains". Another one said "single ended MUST be better than balanced as it keeps the purity of the signal". Good grief. We need a joke list  compiled of "sayings of engineers"!

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geoffkait said:

"Besides, all I was asking for in the example you provided is EVIDENCE. That doesn’t seem too much to ask. 😬 I’m not demanding PROOF. "

Okay, change my question to you asking for "EVIDENCE". The result is the same. You ask for evidence but then claim that nothing anyone introduces rises to the level of "EVIDENCE". Same difference. Still specious. And you’re pretty much just parsing words to wiggle out of the trap you set for yourself.

>>>>>I’ve already given you my answer. As I suspected, you don’t know the difference between proof and evidence. Nor do you understand why I ask for evidence to support bold statements. Let me give you an example. When someone recently stated that there have been many blind tests of cables, I asked him to provide links to blind tests. Which someone did. That’s an example of asking for evidence of a bold statement. This conversation can serve no purpose any more.