Cheap bi-wiring?

Snook gives great advice, audition double runs of cable from cable company, and do direct comparison of single wire and bi-wire. Most high end speakers are designed for bi-wire with special crossover design for biwiring, some are not and use more complex internal crossover designs for single wire. I wonder if those who ridicule bi-wiring have even tried it, or just repeat everything Martin DeWolf says.... BTW I tried both ways and prefer bi-wire set-up, but each person has to make thier own assessment.

Blues_man; you state above "70% or more of high end is BS". You would be doing me,other Audiogon members, and audiophiles world-wide, a great service if you would post the (presumably) 30% of high-end audio that is valid;(ie, not BS)-- by product/brand name would be great. We could save tremendous amounts of money and would be forever grateful to you, not to mention richer. Thanks in advance. BTW, I'm really into the blues too; Buddy Guy, JJ Cale, and recently, Dave Hole are some favorites. Leafs; could you please post the names of the "mass market high-end speakers" you mention in your above post; by brand name would be great. Your information, along with Blues_man's, could go a long way toward clearing up much of the confusion that exists in this hobby, and would also be a boon to audio enthusiasts world-wide. Again, thanks in advance. Just as a vote for bi-wiring, Richard Vandersteen recommendes bi-wiring for his 2Ces and 3A speakers, and they are specifically designed for it. I have the 3Asigs., bi-wired, of course. Others, such as Thiel are not designed for bi-wiring, and do not have bi-wire connections. Craig.

Leafs you cant read as usual.Read what I wrote and dont twist things around.One will get better performance from a real good speaker in bi-wire than a mid-fi one.In other words a better resolving speaker.Is that clear enough.If you are looking to be a jerk again go for it dude! "David99,your off base as usual" Sounds like you are trying to stir things up here,huh?

Maybe i can clear this up for the uninformed or confussed. When speaking of bi-wire, the bi stands for two, meaning two seperate set of cable or double run or external bi-wire. Thus for a speaker that was designed for bi-amp can be bi-wired using two seperate pr of speaker cable or two seperate runs terminated by one connector at the amp end or two seperate runs terminated to one amp post. This is a true bi-wire and has advantages and disadvantages as in a bi-amp or tri-amp setup with the advantages outweighing the disadvantages. A cable that is singe bi-wire is not a true bi-wire and correct has little or no advantage or just a glorified jumper. So when you inquire about bi-wire i beleive you mean a true bi-wire as the posters question implies. If you need a technical explaination do a research on bi-amping and bi-wiring, try the site Visions in Audio. I use two seperate pr for bi-wiring. Its all in the speaker design, not all speakers that have dual post per polarity are truly bi-wirerable and benefit. I realize that most at this site know this and can explain it better than i. Anyone want to take the time to explain this better and inform the uninformed and help many. Happy Holidays

I have found bi-wiring makes an audible improvement with some speakers, and not others. B&W Matrix series, and Aerials, in my experience, sound noticeably more detailed and open sounding when bi-wired, especially the Aerials. I have a pair of Paradigm 60v2s in a second system and have found that bi-wiring the Paradigms provides no audible improvement even though there are provisions for bi-wiring and the manual recommends bi-wiring. Experiment with cheap wire before committing to an expensive bi-wire run. There is also the debate whether you should invest in one run of quality cable instead of two runs of a lesser quality cable for bi-wiring.