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Classic Records vs. Analogue Productions

I listen a lot of classic and jazz.

Because of limited avaliability I pass original releases of RCA Living Sound or Blue Note releases.

I found that for many titles there are at least few offerings from Classic records: 180g 33/3, 200g 33/3, 180g 45 single side, 200g 45 single side, and a variations with Clarity vinyl.

The Classic Records is gone so maybe not good time to elaborate how anoying was releasing another edition of the same title on never format that not necessery was better all the time.

I found that many titles released before by Classic Records is now reissued by Analogue Productions - many of them on 2x 45 RPM format.

So the question is - what is an ultimate reissue soundwise?

Classic Regirds single side 45 (clarity) vs. later Analogue Productions 2 x 45 RPM pressed at QRP.

The titles I am interested:

Brubeck Time Out
Adderlay somethin Else
Rimsky Korsakov Scheherazade
Saint Seans Symphony no 3 Organ
All Reiner at RCA.
milimetr
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syntax
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The best sounding ones are the first CR 180gr pressings from the mid 90's in 33.3 rpm and from those the 45 rpms.
The Master Tape can't be improved, the detoriation is fact. Mixing here and there and shifting frequency areas later is a separate story.
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rushton
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Whart, Bernie Grundman's mastering style has always been to have a bit of a sharp zingy top. He's known for it. His sound really shifted because of the Mercury project, but the leaning is for crisper and a bit brighter sound. I can't really compare the popular music you reference because I just have the originals and don't invest in buying the reissues of popular music for the most part. I certainly admire the work of Lee Hulko - hard to imagine bettering his work.
fjn04
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Whart- So you have the ZEP 45 box set, or 180gr 33rpm's? If you don't mind my asking, are you comparing to early presses of Zep 1 and Zoso? I have a first US press Zoso, I will have to compare it to my Classic. I never found the Classics bright, no more than what these recordings are in the first place. I have the brand new remaster of Zep 1 from digital files, and I must say, that sounds futzed with. Cheers -Don
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whart
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Rushton: thanks.
Fjn/Don: Don't mean to derail this thread for Zep stuff, but I bought a couple
of the Zep albums as Classic 45's individually, not p/o the
"roadcase." (I also have Zep 1 and III as Classic 33's). As I
have posted on other threads here, for the first album I find the Piros 'CC'
Monarch the most convincing, overall, and think it sounds better than the
Classic 45, Monarch first press, the UK plum and the east coast (US) first
press. The Classic 45 has more detail, more 'air' in the middle, but doesn't
have the drive or the overall cohesiveness of the Piros/Monarch, which just
sounds more balanced and, for lack of a better word- less 'tweaked.'
On IV, I alternate between a UK plum, a US Porky/Pecko Monarch and the
Classic 45. Agree, the newest reissues sound pretty flat and lifeless,
though they are quiet, have pretty good bass and are inexpensive.
playpen
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I have the 45 rpm classic of Saint Seans organ and the original RCA 2s pressing,the original much better.I bought Zappa's Hot Rats classic 33,forget it,a total waste of money compared to original.I'm done with reissued vinyl,just about all of it a disappointing experience for me.If I can't hear it first and demo it on my system I won't buy it.Been stung too many times.I listened to the glowing reviews too many times and suckered into but yet another waste of money.
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