Coincident Super Eclipse and amp power


The Super Eclipse is marketed as a low-powered, tube-amp friendly design. This is, no doubt, very much true compared to many speakers.

Using the Super Eclipses, I tried the 18/36-watt Manley 300B Retros (in their interim version--after original issue and before the Neo) and the 47 Labs Gaincard-S (50 watt version with double power supplies) and found them both to be under-powered-- especially for large, orchestral music. My room is 16 x 25 feet with large vent-offs at the back, skylights, and heavy, wall-to-wall carpeting.

I am sure the kind of music one listens to influences a lot of this , but I have a sneaky suspicion that the 'Super E's' really like a lot more power than some of the rhetoric surrounding them (and their 92 dB, 14 Ohm rating) would suggest. Am I the only one who thinks that the "Supers E's,' really sound much better with about 95, strong, push-pull, tubed watts (transformer) or about 150, OTL, triode watts?
kalan
I've noticed that Wilson speakers, as an example, which have high efficiency specifications, are typically paired with LOTS of power via Levinson or Krell or equivalent. I'm sure you can drive them with small amps, but people seem to want big power anyway.
The best i have ever heard the Super Eclipse sound is with Atma-Sphere M-60II.I have spent hours at a local dealer who powers the SE with this amp.I love the sound.
Kalan: I just noticed a new speaker (to me anyway) at the Coincident website. It is named the Victory and specs 97 db A 18+ ohms. It is out of my price range and our cats would kill a pair of floorstanders, but it looks very interesting and does not seem to have side firing drivers. 97db is a big step up.
keep in mind that an amp rated at 100 into 8 ohms only puts out 50 into 16 ohms, so higher impedance speakers aren't necessarily easier to drive to higher levels. OTL amps however generally put out higher wattage into higher impedances.
You may try calling or emailing Israel Blume at Coincident. He's great at responding to inquiries and should have a reasonable explanation/suggestion for you. Good Luck.