cost no object integrated amps

if i had your budget i’d look very hard at the Dag. if you stay with it you should be able to find a used one but they are rare. it will make the tubes vs ss argument superfluous. don’t know about remote control of balance. the new progression integrated, which is awesome, does have it..ymmv

Surprised the Nagra integrated hasn't been mentioned..

@p3ga  my take is, nagra is awesome but excel in separates more than integrated space and they have some good external power supply as well.

at a macro level it looks like the swiss makers are the top of the game
nagra
dartzeel
soulution
ch precision

@jafant  the ayre amps have a beautiful and engaging presentation, very musical and sweet but i think it lacks an authority in the bass area

@infection

@thebingster

@gestalt

@duckworp

can one of you or each of you help in describing the sonic output of these amps (vitus sia-30 or dartzeel or others). i know its system dependent but as much as you can

for example d’augustino momentum ,luxman are characterized as sweet, musical, bit laid back , less solid state ,slightly tuby etc etc

everyone has their preferences but i am looking for an amp that is less sweet , less warm ,less colored, more detail and resolution oriented.

its ok if its a little dry or clinical or analytical to obtain a high degree of resolution , clarity , details air, separation, crystalline, clean and crisp highs/treble

i definitely don’t want to end up with a warm and sweet amp in the name of making it sound analogish or removing the harshness or fatigue.