dissapointed - new LS50w's vs old PioneerFS52's/Luxman R113 - so far Kef's not so great?


windows pc system,
listened an hour thus far, the Kef's are sitting on top of the Pioneers, straddling a computer desk, at the moment Kef's are usb connected and the luxman feeds into the pc via 3.5mm so I can kind of a/b
I plan on getting iso acoustic pucks soon

gotta say quite underwhelmed thus far, maybe a touch more clarity and imaging from kefs, slightly crisper highs
bass is not really close much better on the pioneers

I've played around with the app just a bit, guessing the kefs need break in also?
getting swan m300's next but not before I'm sure I've given the kefs a thorough workout over a few hundred hours
thoughts/advice?


audiocanada
LS50's are the poster child for why one should never believe "professional" reviews.
I heard the Kef Blade 2 the flagship speakers and I can't say I was impressed , they have a unique sound signature which overshadow the recording and their bass was completely unstable sometimes to week sometimes too overhang .
@ audiocanadaHave the LS50 passive and they need a break in period of 200-300 hours.Have made some heavy trapezoid concrete stands for the Kef's. Have had them powered with a variety of amplifiers ranging from a Nait 5, NAD 3020, darTZeel, Wyetech Topaz 211 and a Classe DR-3b. The speaker is a keeper in my books. You are welcome to stop by for a listen. The LS50 are a good speaker which reveal any shortcoming of the upfront gear.
some really good advice on this thread, thanks everyone
they've gone back to the store
obviously I didn't get full break in, but I experimented with the setup exhaustively and ran enough music through them to know that I don't like them mostly due to tonality, not my flavour
I also think there are some serious limitations to these speakers and that they're highly overrated

without the above feedback from everyone I would have probably continued on with frustration past the return period and likely sell for half what I paid as these things are everywhere on the used market
thanks again all






Although not my cup of tea, there is nothing wrong with the LS50W other than the apps. The bass is deep and full and they offer quasi-room placement compensation. Given the description:

the Kef’s are sitting on top of the Pioneers, straddling a computer desk,

it’s no wonder they don’t sound good, especially the bass. I’ve owned the passives for three years. They want to be affixed to the stand’s plate and ideally a very heavy stand (mine are filled with dried sand). How else are you going to get the most out of a small speaker if it’s moving around? Without question, the passives need a sub. The Ws not so much. I’ve heard them many times and demoed them extensively in multiple size rooms. As mentioned by others they need a bit of time.