DIY High pass filters for Vandersteen Model 5A Carbon's?


Hey folks! I've just received a pair of Model 5A Carbon's without the high pass filters. These speakers didn't come with bass cabs, so I paid under 2 grand for everything. With that in mind, paying half of that for a pair of high pass filters to me would be quite the investment. I've read online that filters such as these can be built, but I am struggling to find instruction on how to achieve such. There seems to be a decent amount of discussion on Vandie filters here, so I thought I'd ask how to make the filters I've read about. 
thought91
Vandersteen has used first order crossovers consisting of one or two high quality capacitors, often soldered to RCA jacks and shrink wrapped.  They should still have these available. You need to tell them the power amp you will use to drive the top end so they can determine the input impedance and supply the right caps.

You are on your own as far as coming up with a bass unit and power amp and crossover to mate with your 5 bits.  My old 4As use a separate crossover that is adjustable for impedance and gain, that was a plug in t the wall unit; I understand the 5s use a battery powered crossover.

You need to find out what the crossover points are as you have everything but the sub.   I have a couple of Hsu subs that are quite adjustable (used only in the video part of my main system)  - if you find out the crossover point of the Vandie bits you've got, you might talk to Hsu about getting a powered sub that would mate with them.  You are probably looking at around $1,000 x2 if that works out.
@wspohn :

You are right, if the OP was going to replace the bass cabinets with Vandersteens then the approach you recommend is ideal. But Vandersteen builds his bass electronics to complement this de-emphasis, something no one else I know of does.

However, if the OP was not going to go that way, this makes it more complicated to replicate, and IMHO not worthwhile. Use a fully active crossover before the amp, and handle it and bass EQ there. With a HT receiver/processor or a preamp like the Parasound P5/P7, this is all built in, though you give up that 1st order matching, but come on, we’re already dealing with a bit of a mash-up. :)

Also, and this is not a popular opinion, Vandersteen's capacitors are crap. You'll do better with alternatives.

Best,

E
No one has addressed the issue of how the top part of the speaker is going to be supported. I would like to see the custom built stand that would be needed to hold that heavy slanted head unit.
As Erik said, the whole thing is a mash-up, and may not be worth the trouble and considerable expense to get it right. And if you did, what would it look like? Frankenspeaker! 
Thanks @roxy54 !

I mean, this isn't of zero value. If the OP approaches this not as a way to save money, but as a learning opportunity, he could get far and feel it was well worth it.

For instance, if he built his own sub cabinet, learns to measure and integrate the two sections, that is a lot of work, and maybe not financially worthwhile, but as a learning opportunity, priceless! :)

On the other hand, unguided, and unwilling to learn a little about crossover and speaker analysis, he will tinker and spend money on this until the day he dies without being happy. :)

Again, I encourage the OP to come join us at DIYAudio.com in the Multi-way speaker forum. Tons of peeps willing to help on every aspect of this.

Best,


E
All that I lack are the bass cabinets. Yes, a big reason for tackling this project was for the experience, which I am currently lacking in at age 16.. I have the sub amps, crossovers, top part of the cabinet, and all original drivers. I've been working on designing new bass cabinets, which I will probably replace once I have become more competent. I do want to save money wherever possible, (again, I'm 16) but I can shell out cash wherever necessary. I want to learn how to build high pass filters just to confirm that all of the drivers function as they should, and I plan to eventually buy ones from Vandersteen. I'm close to clueless, but I am confident that this will work out for me in the end. Thanks for your input, I'll make a DIYAudio account ASAP.