Do you think you need a subwoofer?

i can not speak for anyone else, but i removed my sub from my 2 channel set up some time ago. just this weekend i sold it with no plans to replace. the bass(on my B&W800d's), minus a sub, is deep, tight, great sounding and most importantly real sounding. not over stated or under valued just right, real sounding. my transition has been from 2 channel as a kid and young adult to 7.5 channels with dolby and dts. now returning to my roots, back to 2 channel, non-digetal, non-sub, anolog stereo system as a middle aged vinyl listener. back where i started(other then a much better system). where do i go from here? so if you listen to a 2 channel system with a pair of good full range speakers, toss the sub away. if your into movies and surround sound you can never have enough sub. thats the way i see it anyway.

Dear Bob: +++++ " you don't even have any basic measurements.... " +++++

how do you know that what you are hearing is right in a live music event if you don't have measurements?, well you use the best tools for measure: your experiences ears/brain, through them ( if you have the right know-how. ) you know if things go fine.

I'm not against those kind of measurements but according with your point maybe the Agon forums must dissapear because how can you believe what any one say/talk if they don't have measurements about?

Bob make your music life easy and enjoy it.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Dear Koegz: Good for you and this is all about: that any one of us could enjoy what we have in the best way with the best quality performance.

For what you posted I asumme that you was using the sub like a bass reinforcement, right?, which one do you use it?

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Hi Raul, How do I know what I am hearing live is correct? Because it is live. How do you know what you are hearing is correct with a recording? Because it is reproduced faithfully. Without freq aberrations from either electronic equipment or the rooms influence. If there is a frequency deviation that is in your equipment or room it is there for every recording. This is incorrect, you must reproduce the recording as it is. If there is a deviation in the original room (recording) this is what you want to hear, but it is only for that particular recording. You do not want your playback/room to alter the original sound. Isn't this why you go for a great freq response in your phono preamp?

Bob

Dear Bob: +++++ " You do not want your playback/room to alter the original sound " +++++

who say so? I did not.

Bob with al respect your " agenda " is not the main subject on this thread and IMHO belongs to your speaker forum thread.

If you want to argue about then let me know and maybe I could do it in the speaker thread: not here. Thank you for your understanding.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.