Do you think you need a subwoofer?

Dear Bob: +++++ " you don't even have any basic measurements.... " +++++

how do you know that what you are hearing is right in a live music event if you don't have measurements?, well you use the best tools for measure: your experiences ears/brain, through them ( if you have the right know-how. ) you know if things go fine.

I'm not against those kind of measurements but according with your point maybe the Agon forums must dissapear because how can you believe what any one say/talk if they don't have measurements about?

Bob make your music life easy and enjoy it.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Dear Koegz: Good for you and this is all about: that any one of us could enjoy what we have in the best way with the best quality performance.

For what you posted I asumme that you was using the sub like a bass reinforcement, right?, which one do you use it?

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Hi Raul, How do I know what I am hearing live is correct? Because it is live. How do you know what you are hearing is correct with a recording? Because it is reproduced faithfully. Without freq aberrations from either electronic equipment or the rooms influence. If there is a frequency deviation that is in your equipment or room it is there for every recording. This is incorrect, you must reproduce the recording as it is. If there is a deviation in the original room (recording) this is what you want to hear, but it is only for that particular recording. You do not want your playback/room to alter the original sound. Isn't this why you go for a great freq response in your phono preamp?

Bob

Dear Bob: +++++ " You do not want your playback/room to alter the original sound " +++++

who say so? I did not.

Bob with al respect your " agenda " is not the main subject on this thread and IMHO belongs to your speaker forum thread.

If you want to argue about then let me know and maybe I could do it in the speaker thread: not here. Thank you for your understanding.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

"well you use the best tools for measure:your experiences ears/brain,through them(IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT KNOW HOW)you know if things are fine"!!!!!!!!.......

Raul,didn't I emphatically,(and obviously hopelessly) state "that" thought...."multiple times",with you completely ignoring this?.....Amazingly, NOW you use this response(your own words) as a way to avoid a legitimate question from another poster!....When I,myself, took the time to post my own,and experienced friends', same exact experiences,you seemed to completely ignore this,and claimed I did not understand the subject of the thread/bass/IMD!!....Unbelieveable!!!!....Before you get upset,just understand that you are not under attack,from me or anyone else here!And this should be just a good debate(even if somewhat heated).

As I had mentioned before,there are those people who feel there are alternative "Views" to the subject.I am one of them!...Yet,still I believe you have a superb system,and knowledge of music reproduction...in a home environment.A very good thing,IMO!

You asked me a few threads ago if I "understand" the subject...The answer I "did" give you(in my overly long post),but let me state simply....YES!....Yet,I am still adamant about my own "polite" and valid response to you.....Do you understand "MY OWN" point at all??

Also,PLEASE do not think I am attacking you,or trying to embarass you,as you know I have "always" been a BIG fan(and consider myself a friend)of yours.I always view your thoughts as coming from a person with great enthusiasm, and not intentionally insulting!You know(I hope) that I have defended you many times in the past!.....Here,it is JUST that you are SO stubborn,that I simply cannot remain silent!...though I am definitely NOT spending more time on this,here.

You seem frustrated by my counter arguement,but seem to refuse to understand what I am stating,which is NOT far from your own thoughts!!....Just an alternative approach..."under SOME circumstances"!"Under certain(not uncommon)conditions"!..."my ear/brain/experience" emphatically tells me this IS so!

BTW,do you have wooden flooring,or some other material under the system?Just curious.

I will not post about this, here, again as I am played out,but I will ALWAYS find you an interesting/passionate/enjoyable hobbyist....even if you are stubborn as heck(a joke) -:)...now go listen to some classical music...maybe Oliver Messien's Turangaleila Symphony,on EMI!That should tell you alot..."WITHOUT TEST MEASUREMENTS"! -:)
Best...as always,and I do mean "best" to you!