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Enough is Enough

I've been looking at changing my DAC. I was considering Lampizator, Playback Designs, and Ideon. Recently a dealer basically told me(with the exception of my subwoofer and music server) my system sucks. He went on to say, I should sell my amps, preamp, DAC, speakers, and start all over! I've owned several different speakers, amplifiers, and DACs. I've attended shows and several different dealers show rooms. In fact, I directly compared one of the amplifiers the dealer recommended to a Rowland 625 S2 amplifier and preferred the 625 S2. I didn't build my system in a vacuum. I determined what I wanted to spend, listened and purchase what I preferred. I've been in sales and submit it would have been better to recommend a DAC that would improve my system. So now I say, maybe enough is enough; because no matter what I have some dealer will tell me it's crap and I have to start over. 

ricred1
deep_333
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deep_333,

You can’t see my other sub, but I have two subs. The subs were set-up by the dealer using a mic/REW and several hours of listening,

@ricred1 , Well, considering where everything’s at with your 2 channel gear you are pretty much stuck there..

unless, you get a li’l more adventurous and get a BACCH processor from Theortica Applied Physics. You may never know what it feels like to get launched inside a recording until you have something like BACCH in the chain (for 2 channel audio, that is, multichannel’s a different story).

Otherwise, you could keep swapping dacs, amps, cables, etc forever... with no quantum leap, it is just another case of being stuck in the same watering hole comparing notes with the same ol’ guys who are stuck there as well...(thinking y’all heard this or that).

Further, If you need to know about the kind of room treatment that gets you notches further in a dedicated room like yours (something you could strive towards in the longer term), it isn’t cheap or easy to do...(a bit cheaper if you’re diy savvy though).

Here’s one if you’re NOT a diy kinda guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-ydC9IB0G8

Here’s another if you are a diy kinda guy.

https://youtu.be/tKWAI21G0bc?si=Q7GARnEkHvC26dJ7

Hope that helps.

 

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mdalton
467 posts
 

I would recommend you listen to a Goldnote DS1000, which runs “only” $8k.  I have a DS10, and a good friend of mine had a DCS Bartok (not Apex).  We did head-to-head listening tests.  With the optional external power supply, I preferred my Goldnote to his DCS - more midrange magic, and at less than half the price.  There are a number of Goldnote dealers in Texas.  Another interesting choice is a Simaudio 681 at $12k; again, more flesh on bones than dcs imho.

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audiojacks
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You didnt mention your DAC model. You have Rowland 625s. I have the 925s with the Aeris DAC and Coherence II preamp. Couldnt be happier. I run it with a Rockna Dreamwave Server bypassing the Rockna DAC and a separate Roon Core. Couldnt be happier. Try and find a used Aeris if you can. 

 

 

ricred1 OP
2,022 posts
 

audiojacks,

I currently use a Chord Dave DAC. Prior to the Dave I had a PS Audio Directstream, Bricasti M1 SE, Jeff Rowland Aeris, and a Rockna Signature DAC. I prefer the Dave to the aforementioned DACs. Hearing the DCS Rossini APEX in my system made me want to pursue changing DACs.

I had a JR 625 S2, but currently use JR 735s with the Corus preamp. I'm considering changing my DAC and nothing else.

ricred1 OP
2,022 posts
 

deep_333,

Thanks for the information. I already sent AcousticFields an email.

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