Ethernet connection for best sound quality


As far as I'm aware of for streaming audio with tidal hi fi plus ethernet. I need; besides modem and router.

1) A Streamer

2) A ethernet card specifically for audio jcat or matrix if I use my computer

3) Shielded ethernet cat 5 or better cable

So from wall to modem to router to streamer to dac, correct?

 

 

 

 

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You definitely don’t need a streamer to get absolutely top notch performance. You may like the streamer better subjectively, but objectively there’s nothing particularly better about it. If it’s functionality works out better for you then go for it. If you think it sounds better, go for it. If you haven’t tried a streamer yet, I think it’d be best to find out as much as possible before committing.

A music streamer is a lot like a game console. Hardly anybody will say that a game console can play games better than a computer. Quite the opposite. However, a game console has a lot of conveniences and plays games well enough for most everybody. For me, a console is overall a better experience for gaming. For music playback, I’ve found I prefer the computer over dedicated streamers. It has to do with how I listen. If you want the absolute best performance and flexibility use a computer. If you want a walled garden experience that will sound good enough, maybe even better to some subjectively, get a streamer.

Some things I’ll confess I don’t like about the computer:

1. It’s complicated, with a lot of settings. I can lose track of what all is going on.

2. It’s a multipurpose machine and may interrupt your music session with other business.

3. A software update can create some havoc now and then.

Having said all that, I’ve had streaming devices produce similar issues now and then. I’ve not tried them all, but I’ve read reports of similar issues with even very well regarded high end streamers, so as someone said earlier, it’s still a computer and will still have some of these issues.

Actually, I should clarify that I still do use a streaming device, but the computer is also hooked up and I find myself gravitating mostly toward it as the primary streaming source.

Directly responding to the original question of ethernet for sound quality, you'll have to decide for yourself. There is no consensus on a broad scale, and certainly no repeatable testing that has shown conclusively that there's a lot going on with sound quality concerning your ethernet connection. You can gather opinions here so I'll give you mine - it hardly matters. Your speakers and room, no matter how good, are going to be veiling the sound by orders of magnitude more than your ethernet connection or choice of streamer. I won't say that you or someone else can't hear it. But I wouldn't let anyone else tell you what to expect. You'll have to listen for yourself and decide what matters to you. 

@soix 

Like I pointed out, a streamer is simply a small computer and it generates all the electromagnetic noise that a regular PC would generate. In fact, most use Linux as the base operating system and commodity compute modules / hardware for processing.

 

One benefit of a streamer might be the lack of mechanical noise from cooling fans, but if you build and configure a PC carefully they're basically inaudible from a few feet away.

You definitely don’t need a streamer to get absolutely top notch performance. You may like the streamer better subjectively, but objectively there’s nothing particularly better about it.

Uh, objectively there absolutely is something better about a dedicated streamer.  Better components and much lower noise yields huge benefits in streaming.  If you think a multipurpose computer streams music as well as a good dedicated streamer I got a bridge I can sell ya.  

Like I pointed out, a streamer is simply a small computer and it generates all the electromagnetic noise that a regular PC would generate. In fact, most use Linux as the base operating system and commodity compute modules / hardware for processing.  One benefit of a streamer might be the lack of mechanical noise from cooling fans, but if you build and configure a PC carefully they're basically inaudible from a few feet away.

Yes, the one benefit of a good streamer is lack of fan noise.  Good call.

A music streamer is a lot like a game console. Hardly anybody will say that a game console can play games better than a computer.

A music streamer is nothing like a gaming console in any way whatsoever!  Seriously, what are you even doing here?

Is ASR funneling their members here just to spew their ridiculous crap?  Argh!

@soix

Better components?

Let’s look at the Innuos Statement - a flagship streamer. What is the CPU they use?

An Intel Quad Core N4200 - link

Launch date of Q3 2016. This processor is a 7 year old design. Recommended customer price of $56.00. It looks like Intel will stop broad support for this processor on Sep. 30, 2023.

I don’t think this is state of the art.

The operating system running the streamer is Linux-based.

If a streamer uses Linux, it’s most likely using open source software called ’mpd’ for playback. It probably uses other open source projects to handle streaming protocols like shairplay (AirPlay) and umpdcli for UPnP.

 

So what are audiophiles really paying for?

 

 @soix 

 

Can’t even believe we’re still having this conversation. 

 Believe it, there is a sucker born every minute.

Those of us who have tried both know. Those that haven't pontificate.  They are not here for knowledge. Just to preach their superior "knowledge."