Focal Sopra, Kanta, Aria


I’m confused. I’ve been in the market to replace my B&W 802D speakers. I’ve had them for 10 years and finally cannot take the brightness of them anymore. I’ve replaced amps, preamps, cables, sources, and yet the fundamental brightness is there, fatiguing me after only 1-hour of listening.

I auditioned the Focal Sopra 3 which I am told are not as bright and more musical. LIstened to them a few times, and honestly felt that they were also on the bright side similar to the B&W’s.

Another time I listened to the Focal Kanta 3 speaker. Like the Sopra it also has the Beryllium tweeter. Yet the one time I listened to these, they didn’t seem as bright.

Anyway, recently a friend of mine was in the process of moving, and I stored his Focal Aria 936 speakers at my home. I decided to hook them up to my electronics in my listening room just out of curiosity.

What I found were loudspeakers that were not bright (non beryllium tweeter), a warmer sound, probably due to a better mid-bass then the big 802’s. The extreme resolution was not there, and the midrange seemed congested at times. Yet, I found I could listen and enjoy these speakers for hours at a time. Bad recordings sounded good, and great recordings sounded, well, good also. Speaker placement made minimal difference.

My questions is at what is the sweet spot for Focal speakers. The point where they sound wonderful with extended listening, vs the point where they become a finicky pain in the ass to live with (aka 802D).

I was expecting to spend around an equal amount of money as the 802’s as a starting point, now I’m not so sure if I need to.

Thanks in advance for everyone’s input…

onehorsepony

What are the electronics you’re using with your B&Ws?

Any acoustic treatment in the room? Speaker positioning optimized?
If this isn’t taken care of expect to be in the same situation you’re in now with any revealing/high resolution system, Focal included.

classe cam-200 monoblocks, bryston bp26 preamp, mark levinson 5101 cd player, speaker fidled with many times, 4 feet from front wall, 5 feet from side walls.

Exactly what i was thinking, at what point does Focal begin to make revealing/hish resolution speakers.

 

Look at the Focal 948, since the 936 has your ear.

It's a little bigger footprint than the 936, more punch with a little more refined presentation.

@onehorsepony Kanta is the starting point.

Is your room treated? Speaker placement will only get you so far. At a minimum take care of first reflection points.

 

@audphile1 +1

 

OP: I realize we all hear differently and prefer different sound. However, I can’t possibly understand how one can describe B&W 802 D4 as “bright”. Very odd