Fuses fuses fuses


Ok, this is about fuses

1- a standard Bussman fuse is UL approved. Are any "high end" fuses UL approved?

2- do any component manufacturers supply their gear with any of the usual suspects of high end fuses as opposed to a standard Bussman?

3- let's say fuses do make a difference. Given incoming power is AC, why could fuses be directional? 

Not meaning to light any fires here- 

thanks in advance 
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Which is worse -misrepresenting a fact or embellishing your potential results? 

"Perceptions determine value, and sometimes misconceptions cause prices to become utterly disconnected from the true underlying worth

Doubt I'll earn another gold star for this one

Probably get a poke in the eye with a sharp stick instead 
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The next part of the problem..... is that it is now shown what the philosophical origins of objective science have said and knew as being correct..from the very beginnings of the concept of logic: that objectivity cannot exist - that objectified isolated realism, local or distant, is not possible.

https://phys.org/news/2017-07-probability-quantum-world-local-realism.html

The reality, the only reality that the results propose, is: objectivity is a fabrication, a projection... of a fundamental reality which is entirely subjective and entangled. That we only posses probability, and theory, and not fact. That 'Fact' cannot exist.

And that’s just the upper lip of the rabbit hole......



almarg
Geoffkait 7-20-2017
Of course, the real interesting thing in the fuse measurements was that listening tests correlated to measurements, i.e., the best sounding directional was ALWAYS the direction with least resistance.

A question: Where do you see that?

The only reference to listening tests I see in the HiFi Tuning paper is the following statement, which has nothing to do with directionality:
For DC applications it ́s recommended to use the solder type fuse or the cryogenically treated fuses from HiFi-Tuning Germany.
The drop in resistance up to the factor of 8 is clearly measurable and also could be detected in listening test.
Regards,
-- Al

>>>>>Al, that’s a good question, but why on Earth would they have even had someone test fuses if not to prove - or at least show evidence - that fuses in general are directional and that HiFi Tuning fuses exhibited better measured characteristics in terms of conductivity than other high end fuses of that time period as well as stock fuses? HiFi Tuning believes in fuse and wire directionality. That’s why they mark their fuses with that diode symbol, so the user can experiment and find out which direction sounds best. So, of course HiFi Tuning obviously believes that the measured data supports their position. Otherwise they would not have published the data. And that the fuse direction that exhibits the lower value for resistance (I.e., higher conductivity) would be the best sounding direction. In their conclusion, they state,

"The measurements done so far showed some measurable differences between fuse,
but didn ́t explain completely the sonic differences between fuses."

That statement shows they believe the directionality measurements correlate with sonic differences (but do not necessarily explain the large sonic differences they heard). As I’ve already indicated many times, there are other variables involved with fuse sonics, fuse directionality is not the only variable. No one ever suggested directionality was the only or even primary variable. One need look no further than the design of many modern aftermarket fuses such as Audio Magic Beeswax fuse and Synergistic Research Black (I.e, Graphene) fuse to see that other factors are involved and addressed, and HiFi Tuning gold and silver fuses and cryo’d fuses obviously address other factors, too.



why on Earth would they have even had someone test fuses if not to prove - or at least show evidence - that fuses in general are directional and that HiFi Tuning fuses exhibited better measured characteristics in terms of conductivity than other high end fuses of that time period as well as stock fuses? HiFi Tuning believes in fuse and wire directionality.
A much simpler answer is that they want your money and the way they are getting it is by making gold-plated fuses. The marketing rhetoric is of course to separate them from the much less expensive gold plated fuses used in cars.

This is an example of Veblen Effect.
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/Veblen-effect.html
@teo-audio 

You write, "The reality, the only reality that the results propose, is: objectivity is a fabrication, a projection... of a fundamental reality which is entirely subjective and entangled. That we only posses probability, and theory, and not fact. That 'Fact' cannot exist."

Not so, not at all. The headline reads, "Probability that the QUANTUM world obeys local realism is less than one in a billion, experiment shows."

Don't break out the theramins just yet, Teo.

In the first place, probability is not the same as subjectivity. To see this, try betting on a roll of dice, and see how subjective the results are to the other players.

Deterministic is the antonym of probabilistic. Not objective.

Secondly, while it is true that there are no facts without theories, that is because theories are required to interpret observations. These interpretations may be revised in the light of new data and new theory, but that is not on the level of observation. Thus we can correlate flying saucer sightings and Virgin Mary sightings across the ages. The underlying observations are interpreted according to the dominant theory.

Thirdly, there is a fundamental principle of physics, that of correspondence. That is, a new theory has to agree with old theory within a restricted realm, usually one of precision or scale. In the case of quantum theory, which describes the very very small, quantum theory must correspond to classical physics in the realm of the not so small. Thus in the world which is remotely accessible to humans, the two theories must give the same results, and they do.