Gold coated brass speaker spades


Question for the forum.

Whats the low down on brass speaker spades and bananas?

I recently demoed some very nice sounding speaker cables from a reputable manufacturer and found they used gold plated brass connectors.  From what I have read in these forums, copper is the preferred base metal.  Does it really matter?

What to do? 

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Showing 7 responses by czarivey

I think it matters, and I’m surprised that a company like Tara Labs would be using brass. Shame on them.

@roxy54 I’m really NOT surprised. They took smart Chinese approach of making materials cheaper. Consumers would not notice a thing like they would not notice any difference between pure silver in Siltech and brass in the fake Siltech as long as the outside looks same. 

When Alibaba, Aliexpress wasn't part of ebay they were all overwhelmed with fake Siltech, Harmonic Tech and other super high-priced wires made with cheap brass and most of the fools didn't notice anything till they took them apart. 

what we really know that we are paying for brand namez and not much for product. the way around is to purchase bulk wires for cheap from sites such as newark.com or digikey.com and build own speaker wire with pure copper. even if you decide to purchase silver wires, it will still be cheaper than purchasing terminated cable with brass wire.

@soix 

Looks like everything happens for a reason and no matter how absurd it is sounding to you, please check the past how Chinese retailers were selling fake Harmonic Tech, Nordost, Siltech and other 4...5- figure priced wires for around $100 per pair and finding lots of success, because even if science can be misleading or biased, the mathematics cannot. The material inside pretty sleeves when opened turned out to be neither OFC nor Silver, but the discussed cheap brass!

@jpwarren58 

It's all about brass being same as OFC and even Silver. All three materials can be used in audio wires and all will sound nearly same.

All points about Cooper vs. Silver vs. other metals are true and I'm not arguing that. Brass wires inside Chinese fake cables instead of OFC or Silver is also true.

These truths do also reveal that for audio applications the differences will be so small that most of consumers won't notice and purchase fakes with happiness. 

@dill 

Right now you won't be able to find any brands of hi-end audio wires from neither DHGate nor Alibaba/Aliexpress. Before they were part of ebay everything was possible. Fake wires were made and sold to public and you can only dream about if they have silver or OFC. 

 

@soix 

There's nothing but logic equations there -- no science at all

Anyone who is able to compare size to size is able to see what makes difference even without listening and comparing. I didn't fall onto pretty Chinese fakes  given the fact that the only purpose for those ultra high-end wires for cheap was for the creative scammer to purchase and resell as real. For me even those tempting deals of around $100...200 per pair of Siltech were too pricey and unnecessary. I use mostly studio grade wires that are a lot cheaper than home-audiophile grades and a lot more sincere. I'ts been over decade or more when Alibaba/Aliexpress and DHGate became a part of ebay, but before that all of those fakes were finding a lot more success than failure so that the quantity of "trained" audiophiles that would notice difference is substantially smaller ones who would not find any differences. You are matching too much to yourself and you gotta know that there are far more people than just you. 

to me cable that is over a kilobuck per meter or foot is similar scam as Chinese fake equivalents.

Nordost Odin is another example of scam.

@roxy54 I was talking about Chinese fake equivalents to most high-priced audio wires/cables. While original Nordost Odin was around $8k per meter the Chinese equivalent were sold somewhere in $200 range. It looks like I'm respecting even those who made living on selling fakes, because scamming the scammer is perfectly normal.