Has anyone had experience with the Schroeder Arm

Hello Ebm,

Statements like

"HAD ONE GOT A GRAHAM IT BLEW IT AWAY"

don't help the reader in any way.

Having lived with the Graham 2.2 (Benz Ruby 2, Denon DL103R), I can state that it is a very fine tonearm. Subjectively however, when moving to a Schroeder Reference, a degree of tension melts away. You come to realize that you were clenching your teeth when listening to the 2.2.

Now, music is all about tension and release, but it's not this sort of which I speak. Rather than labor over this topic here, the reader is invited to check the following link if you're interested:


a rant on musical ease and realistic presentations.

Having said all of this, I'd be happy to demonstrate and sell any of you a Galibier Quattro with the arm of your choice, but if you ask me, that choice should be a Schroeder, with the Triplanar following closely.

Cheers,
Thom @ Galibier

Very well said Thom!

Thom,
Assuming either is coupled with your table, how would you describe the difference in both sound and use of the Tri-Planar vs. the DPS?
Thanks for contributing here, it is appreciated! Cheers,
Spencer

Hello Ebm,
The information content of your post is diametrically opposed to your use of caps. Maybe for the benefit of everyone here, you´d care to elaborate under which conditions(table, cart, etc.) you performed your comparison. I have no doubt whatsoever that the Graham Phantom is an improvement over the 2.2, otherwise, why would Bob Graham go through the hassle of introducing a new top of the line model. But the Phantom is so new that I am rather cautious regarding bold statements such as yours when you couldn´t have had a lot of time to gain experience with it(as in: using it with different carts and decks).

Curious,

Frank Schröder

Ebm,

Like Thom I find your statement of questionable value. Along with lacking in useful detail it also goes against the informed opinions of many others on this list. I have owned and spent considerable time with both the 2.2 and the Schroder Reference in my own system. In addition have heard the 2.2 and the Reference in well controlled comparisons. The universal response by myself and every person present at either comparison strongly favored the Reference. So sweeping statements like "BLEW IT AWAY" without any supporting details do not have a lot of credibility.

I acknowledge that given your tastes and system context that the Graham may be preferred. But given the experience of myself and many others it seems more likely that the conditions surrounding your comparison were flawed. Please favor us with some details.