Sbrownnw, I do. Csontos is right. Each bit of leather that you work with is always different from the one before.
We've not mentioned brain-tanning yet but that technique (which involves a lot more labor) yields a much softer and more supple material. |
No. Just a logical assumption. |
@Csontos, do you have any personal experience around your last statement? |
Leather has to be somewhat of a crap-shoot due to all the variables involved in the tanning process and differences among individual hides. Even when your dealing with the same species. Leaves it wide open to true skill level by the maker. |
Found this shootout link: matsLooks like the leather mat "won" for best overall out of the 6, including best bang for the buck. :) |
I recently aquired a mooomat because I love the design. It looks great and lets be honest here, mats offer a very subtle change to the the sound of a TT. So try one if you like the look. It will sound fine. |
I would look for a kosher mat ... |
Guy flogging it should be in prison, likely a Nazi artifact. |
Imagine putting your heart and soul into the music:)
... or having some skin in the game. |
Not too long ago I saw a book bound in human skin being flogged on 'Pawn Stars'. Imagine putting your heart and soul into the music:) |
Actually the REAL problem is that the mayonnaise jar was not hermetically sealed and kept on Funk and Wagnell's porch for correct aging. |
^^^ The problem there is that he was using raw pigskin. Tanning is a messy business and he probably should have just bought some from Tandy Leather. |
I once knew this guy that got raw pigskin from the local slaughterhouse. He would make platter pads from it- his idea was that hands held instruments- why shouldn't skin hold the LP too?
His LPs got greasy, he had to keep the pad in a mayonnaise jar in the refrigerator until flesh-eating bacteria started eating it, finally when the people at the slaughterhouse found up what he was doing with all the pigskins they got weirded out and stopped selling to him.
Top that :) |
(Imitating Jimmy Fallon on SNL): t h e l e a t h e r. |
leather works for all applications.... |
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I got one of these on my RP6: leather matI think it sounds and looks great. My local Rega dealer said I should put it side-by-side to a $65 Herbie Mat . I've used Herbie Mats on other tables and they were good, but I like the fact that the leather mat is all natural and soft on both sides for the vinyl and the glass platter of the RP6. Maybe if I upgrade my subplatter to a GT and I can use my Cleaver Clamp again, I will try a Herbie Mat after putting in a good amount of listening on just the subplatter upgrade. Have people done side-by-side comparisons with leather like mine and the Herbie Mat on the newest RP3 / RP6 models? |
I have a thin Hide in the Sound leather mat on Yamaha yp-82 table. I wanted to drop the VTA and was not in fear of the resonance of the aluminium platter. I am using a Denon mono cart. No negatives. Not muddy nor extra detailed, etc. Looks nice. |
No, but interesting and different. I have tried many things both purchased and home-made in an effort to better the sound of my TT of which I already feel is wonderful. I have finally realized that the solution, for me, is not to change the sound of my TT, but to free its sound (IMO). Remove any additves, and stop the normal vibrations and noise that muddies the sound. Once you get rid of the grunge, the TT can now speak for itself. If you don't like what it's saying after that, maybe you need a different TT.
Finally, I found what I was looking for with an SRA Base. This tweak was big for my TT, and when I add a mat now, I hear an additional color that I don't care for. |
Kinky little sucker, aren't you! |
My turntable platter is copper this sounds best leather is good for a jacket!! |
I have been using a Victor pigskin mat designed for use on their Laboratory Series DD turntables like the TT-101. One side is suede whilst the other is tanned leather......very much like the 'Hide in the Sound' mats. I would avoid the cork laminated leather mats like those from MooMats. The Victor pigskin mat is 1mm-1.5mm just like the 'Hide in the Sound' ones and produces the best sound from the cast Aluminium platter of the TT-101.......equal to that of the the heavy Micro Seiki Cu-180 copper mat. I find it best with the suede side up. The pigskin mat does not sound better on my Raven AC platter. The bare copper top without any mat sounds best in my system......so I guess it is all dependent on the make-up of your platter? But at the cheap price of $33 for the 'Hide in the Sound' mats....I don't see how you could go wrong trying it out? :-) If you do......please let us know? |
Great question! Recently I've had the same one. |
I heard, those made from Canadian Caribou have the best sound. But it is important that they died happy. Killed from a truck will support distortions ... |