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Have you moved away from full range to standmount speakers + subs?

I want to know if you have been on a journey moving from a large full range speaker to a smaller one paired wit subs, maybe even four subs.


Maybe you moved away from the big speakers because you had too much bass or you got a better soundstage from the smaller speakers. Let me know what motivated you and if you think it’s better now.


My motivation for wanting to try smaller speakers.


I have the Tekton DI and until a month ago I was using a LM845P SET amp to drive them.

It only sounded good on simple jazz and vocals but on complex music everything was falling apart.

I am not playing loud but I think it was the low 2 ohm load in the midrange that made the LM break down.


I bought a used PS Audio BHK250 and pre and it was like getting new speakers. Never ever had it occurred to me that speaker and amp matching could have such a profound effect.


So I am enjoying my speakers now and listen to music I have avoided like the plague and enjoying it (:


But all of this got me thinking, what if I paired my LM845P with an easy to drive speaker and paired it with some subs?


Then the LM845 could do what it's best at, playing glorious midrange and the subs could play the bass.

So that's my motivation for trying smaller speakers.


I am also hoping that maybe I could get better and more even bass with 2 or 4 subs. Maybe a better soundstage because the small speakers have a very small baffle.

martin-andersen
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I have a variety of speakers, from floor standing to standmounts.

I recently got rid of my subs/crossover/DSP unit.

Ultimately I didn't find it added much to my speakers, and I found I preferred the tone and palpability of my speakers without the subs.

Selling the subs was a load off my shoulders.  Very glad to be rid of all that extra gear, the subs taking up space, the additional AC cabling, other cables, other boxes etc. 


I still prefer a good floor standing speaker to any sat/sub I've personally heard.

That certainly isn't an objective take on subwoofers.   I know tons of people love what they bring to a system, and there are technical advantages to integrating subwoofers if you can eek them out in your set up.   They just didn't work out for me.



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ted_denney
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With the thousands of demonstrations I’ve given over the years, I never suggest anyone hear anything. I never lead the demonstration, I do AB comparisons and people make up their own minds. What we have here are a few anonymous members attacking actual audiophiles who hear differences in power cords, fuses and cables, basically everything my company and other companies manufacture, while attacking me personally and making unsubstantiated allegations both against myself, and fellow AudiogoN members. It is amusing after I call out an actual shill for attacking an end-user that the bullies come in to his or her defense, keyboard fingers flying, while saying very little, as is usual for this repetitive lot. To my friends, I look forward to seeing you at the next tradeshow.

Yours in music,
Ted Denney III Lead Designer and CEO Synergistic Research Inc.
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audioman58
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Depending on your budget and to make easy setup the svs3000
and Svs micro are excellent subs and have a great app to fully adjust  your subs  and even program sayfrom audio to home theatre,settings , myself am stepping it up in class between a Marten  speaker ,or the excellent MBL Omni directional speakers  depending on budget ,I have to save I just don’t have an extra$20 k+ in my back pocket. Being married the Mrs had to make over the kitchen ,now a 2 level addition  beforeXmas . Fellow Audiophiles 
i was counting on finishing my other upgrades ,I did upgrade the rest of my system but now I-Have to wait until next year on my speakers  , being married you must learn patience. , I am still learning after 20 years .lol.
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audioman58
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Ted I have owned your active shielded  cables which was a A medusa having 16 outlets  Duo power conditioners ,the Mrs was not happy, I Had to change that , the fuses ,have not tried the purple yet ,I had just bought the Orange fuses 5 months ago ,not much a market for used fuses, lucky my Bricasti - dac-streamer has a breaker ,I need  fuses just for my Coda integrated .Ted  any trade in for a break in pricing to buy the New Purple fuses ?
durkn
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No, I’ve always had large full range floor standing speakers.

Just went from tube monoblocks power rated for my speakers to larger tube monoblocks with much more power.

Amp & speaker matching is essential.

I will never go to smaller speakers & a sub.
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