Help finding a subwoofer

Thanks ieales for your educating post.

Today I threw out a Storm iii and a Stadium iii. The worse part is that Rel do not share schematics. Although one does not have the mind to do so, one should make sure that the manufacturer does, so that one (subwoofer) has a future. To me, shame on Rel. One GOOD reason to avoid.

Doyle3433 thanks for your comments, is the sealed box sound more detailed than the ported one? I tend to think that a more detailed sound would please me.

i am a diehard rel user... they are wonderful subs

but it is true that older models can have their plate amps fail, and the current ownership of the company (john hunter et al) is happy to strand the owner of the older models when that happens ...

be that as it may, it doesn’t take away from the superb musicality and quality of the subs and how they help systems sound truly wonderful

Today I threw out a Storm iii and a Stadium iii.

If the drivers are still good AND you can retrieve, you can remove the amps, fabricate a filler [or just add external connectors] you can use a 2ch class D* and DSP to blow the doors off the REL amplification.

Ported speakers are sub-optimal in many areas: phase coherence, impedance, port huffing... I'm not sure I ever heard a pair I liked.

[* I have a 150W NuPrime ST-10 listed on US Audio Mart that I used for woofer amp in my triamped mains. Other amp options abound.]

I threw out the Rel cabinets. They are garbage now. I removed the drivers and 5e plate amps. But I think I am going to throw out the amps too. Those things do not have a good reputation and I mean the amps alone. Regarding the driver, I 5ink both the storm iii and the Stadium iii drivers have same diameter dimension, The STORM one being heavier.

Thank you for your comments on the ported designs. Ieales

While the Nuprime ST10 seems promising it does not include DSP and adding it would increase the cost. The only option that sticks to my mind though embarrassed am I  not to remember manufacturer less model # is above 3 grand. It would be educationally at least interesting to know of any or some in exsistence if there are units for bass management…that would add another set of cables… Looks like an interesting amp, any comments on use as mains full range in your system that you would like to share? Thanks for your post ieales

I think there are a couple of amps that cost less than 500 us $ with bass management. What’s interesting is that I could have a cabinet built in my destination and reduce freight expense. I will eventually relocate and could reduce weight this way. I would need plans though.

Actually, you'd probably be shopping a two channel pro audio amp with onboard DSP. The outboard clutter of another component and the extra cabling? 

You'll be missing out on the current flexibility of a remote controlled subwoofer and EQ presets.     

I have a cheap subwoofer now. The receiver has subwoofer output and I think that unless the receiver is playing a source with subwoofer code there will not be line signal coming out through the subwoofer line output. Which just make me reaffirmed on the believe that speaker level input in a subwoofer plays real dividends and afford flexibility. I am saying this because I feel I require speaker level input but see a lot of recommendations for subs without speaker level inputs. Now my receiver also has preamp out I am just not sure yet if this works concurrently with all speaker outputs active.

Any opinions on the Definitive Technology SuperCube 6000