Help me understand John Coltrane .... seriously.


Hi Everyone,
Listen I have a favor to ask, and those of you better educated in Jazz can help me.

I always have a tough time listening to John Coltrane. It's like he's talking a different language.
Can any of you point me to recordings I should listen to on Tidal or Quboz or whatever that set me up to better appreciate the man?


Thank you for the musical education.

Best,

E
erik_squires
OR listen to the Lucinda Williams song that says "Just play me John Coltrane"

A Love Supreme is a masterpiece.


sometimes i think John Coltranes spirit was one of pain and suffering. I have enough pain and suffering to deal with day in and day out than to put myself through it when I am trying to relax and enjoy. His best music is the early stuff.
Gaining an appreciation for Coltrane is like gaining an appreciation for Charles Mingus, Yusef Lateef, Charlie Parker or Puccini operas. Set the CD to "play," sit back and listen over and over, and soon the understanding will click in.

Frank
@oregonpapa ,
I am inclined to agree with you. Sometimes, complete immersion yields a greater understanding.
But,
Sometimes the dissonant/discordant sounds force me to flee the room or switch to Mozart.

B
gdnrbob ...

A friend of mine is an ex-studio musician (guitar). He loves opera. I couldn’t stand opera and I told him that it sounded like an old fat lady singing. He told me to buy a tape of a Puccini opera and play it in my car constantly. He said that opera is a lot like jazz, in that, appreciating it is a learned experience. Sure enough, eventually, I got into opera.  

On the dissonant/discordant sounds, one thing that helps, is while listening to it, (Coltrane’s Sheets of Sound, for instance), is to realize that he is in complete control of his instrument at all times. Then comes the appreciation for the talent. Then comes the appreciation for the music.

It is the same thing for the wonderful control of a great soprano voice like Renata Tebaldi, Rita Streich, or Victoria de Los Angeles et al. There are times while listening to a beautiful aria that tears come to the eyes. Humans are totally amazing.

Frank