Hi Fi Hi End Verses Pro Audio Specs

I have been a pro Electric bassist for over 50 years.
I also have done work as a sound man and have recorded in Studio
Also worked in Hi Fi and video sales and as a musical instrument Repair tech.
I have also worked for ADS Speaker Co in Wilmington,Ma.
I have always had this saying in the back of my head and would like to hear from the Hi end community.
Pro Audio vs Hi End Hi Fi.
When music is Recorded live or in Studio it is Music Production.
All Hi Fi no matter how expensive exotic or otherwise is The Reproduction of Music.
They have two different Electrical standards.
Knowing this and Knowing both Pro audio equipment and Consumer.
My vision of this hobby is to have a system that is a crossover between Hi fi and pro Audio.
I am seeking  a Particular sound as well as purity and design.
I would like to hear from the community.
Who uses Hi Fi mixed with Pro Audio in there systems?

Having owned a huge club with tens of thousands of watts, I'll sum it up by saying I now have a theater, 2 channel home audio and a tube system for work-None of these systems have any commercial components and never will.  Differences are massive.
The majority of my experience pushing into the Pro side is with actively crossed speaker systems. I have also done limited work with other components suitable for studio. Imo, the conclusion I have reached to this point is that actively crossed systems may best passive speaker systems, but it is not a given. It all depends upon the speakers being compared and the equipment and cabling used. I have not found an across the board superiority of actively crossed speaker systems regardless of the other variables. 

i.e. You could take a well assembled active speaker system and compare to a passive speaker system of a different genre, i.e. ESL, and you may prefer one or the other, regardless of the domestic or Pro leanings of the speaker systems. I have not found the Pro gear I have used to be holistically superior to other domestic HiFi components. It's better than some, but not others. 

So, you're looking for gear for a rig? Take a glance at what I have reviewed over the years for Dagogo.com, and my system here, and if you have questions, comments, feel free to contact me. You may find one of my more recent explorations in speaker systems with what I call the Landscape Orientation of the PureAudioProject Trio15 Horn 1 Speaker to be of interest, given that you are coming from a Pro background.  :) 


ATC and PMC speakers serve both markets. Audiophile and studios (the really high end of pro-audio). ATC are well known for sounding exactly the same in the studio as they do in their domestic line. Same drivers and same electronics. The best sounding systems in the world are the main monitors in multi-million $ studios. They are used to impress clients. Blackbird Studios in Nashville is a typical example which you can find by googling.

Bass players like Sting and Roger Waters have used ATC for years, as have countless other musicians.

Here is a list


my current setup


I had several systems in the past with used gear from studios in LA as well as Minneapolis.
Great Info Gents.
There are so many choices at all levels.
For me I am looking to assemble a home system that has the sound i grew up with.
I love the sound of the late 60s thru the 70s.
I currently own several Pair of ADS Speakers including a very rare pair of BC8 Broadcast monitors.
I have always loved the sound of JBL such as 4311/12s
There big guys such as 4344s are killer for anything.
While on tour back in 79 I spent a week at The Resorts international Hotel Atlantic city.
The house sound system in the room they had the miss America pageants used all JBL 4355.
What a Sound.
I would the sound at home in a small configuration.
ATC and PMC are great speakers.

A pair of well restored JBL Century 100's will blow away those ADS's and the ADS's are good.

Also,the MAIN thing to remember here coming from LIVE/STUDIO side is that in Hi-Fi ...DISTORTION of any kind is bad and far less tolerated in home stereo. So a lower powered musically appealing amp (adcom) would be much more desirable than a high powered (hammer your ear drums to fatigue hell) (Carver magnetic field design) amp.

Matt M                    P.S. no offense to Bob Carver....lol
I very much agree.
I love the sound of JBL
I have never had any experience with Adcom.
I love Carver especially TFM series of Power Amps.
I used to sell ADS and Yamaha which i thought where a very good Match.
I am very curious about Tubes for a Home system.

Right now I have two simple systems.
I have a small home and listening environment.
One is just for my computer.
M-Audio DX-4 Pwrd monitors with a Cambridge Soundworls Sub
My Listening system is Yamaha RX-450 Receiver with ADS 710 Speakers.I have a small home and listening environment.
I am restoring a Pair of ADS BC8 Broadcast Monitors.
When they are  done i will be searching for something to power them.
Probably Tubes.
From the point you are at you have a long way to go before you get into serious home audio. That is not a judgment, simply a statement of fact. It seems your intention to have "pro" mixed with domestic sound ends with a passive monitor. That's not terribly deep in terms of the two worlds colliding. Frankly, you had a big build up, and the outcome is more mundane than momentous. 

I am attempting not to judge the level of capacity you have for investment into the hobby. I will say this; there is no magic wand for making a pro monitor superior to any number of fine HiFi monitors. I would definitely do some comparisons, as I think you could easily best the ADS with any number of more recent speakers. 
One last thought which you may find helpful; revisiting your power (i.e. something in place of the Yamaha receiver at 45wpc) is a very good option for the ADS, or any�, speaker. I'm not sure how strongly you are tied to the believe that if an amp specs out ok it's good enough, but in the domestic world of audio amps are hugely important and can change a system dramatically. One listen would convince you of that, no ABX needed. 

So, if you have enjoyed the character of the ADS, as you seem to, then I would recommend a move away from the Yamaha toward an audiophile pre/amp, or integrated amp. If you want to get more pro sensibility, then seek a combo DAC/integrated amp. Doesn't get more compact, efficient than that. The truth is the Yamaha is not a strong contender and at some point should be done away. There is a sensational amount of change potential in terms of power for your rig. It can utterly transform, in a good way, the ADS, or any speaker. 

You have two major options, both very worthwhile, to choose from. Or, better yet, do both. 

(I'm not interested in arguing my recommendations)

This is great info
Thank You DG
I totally agree that I have a long way to go with gear.
I am very open to suggestion and knowledge.
i am very fascinated with what is out there.
In my years i thought I have heard everything but at the same time I have heard Nothing.
i have recorded in many studios old and new.
One was Intermedia Sound Boston where Aerosmith and the Cars recorded.
i have heard many studio Monitors from ADS to Westlake.
I plan on developing a very versatile system that would include a mix of input sources.
Cd vinyl digital etc.

It's a lot... I have owned  carver, qsc, crown & crest.  My old Marantz 2215b sounded better than all of them!
Current amps: McIntosh 7106 (theater), Grommes G101A totally restored (2 channel) and a Masterwork integrated made by Pilot (office). All systems are Coincident speakers but work also has a pair of Merrill Zigmahornets.  I listen 15-30 hours a week at work.
I have owned Acoustats, Maggies, Vandersteens, EV, JBL studio, Klipsch Cornwalls & Hereseys, PSB Silvers and so much more.
Sources are mainly Chord Hugo (office), Sota Jewel(2 channel) & Oppo 105 (theater).  I love mixing vintage with new.

bstbomber, kudos, you are open to learning and exploring the domestic hi-fi market and experience. What a ride you will have! It's a completely different ball game than studio, but can be immensely rewarding. 
I used a modern class D Crown pro amp to drive a pair of JBL L7 towers and my current pair of RBH 1266 SE/r towers. I enjoyed the amp, it was powerful, clean and controlled the 12" woofers in both sets of speakers very well. 

I eventually purchased a set of ICEpower class D mono blocks and noticed a significant improvement. They also retailed for quadruple the price. 

So I don't know what to tell you. I'd imagine as you spend more money in pro audio you get more power, reliability and adjustability. That definitely not the case on all fronts with HiFi. There's a lot of ways to skin the proverbial cat. I went with a tube pre and my mono, but a nice low powered tube amp would be lovely with some more efficient speakers.. It's a fun journey though.
I have always liked the sound of Crown Power with JBL Speakers.
Both those Companies Amps and speakers crossover from pro to home nicely.

Simply taking a product that has been used in the pro world and putting it into one's home does not make a system high fidelity. I would not consider either of those products to merit the label audiophile grade. component. I would not use either one in a system in which I was concerned about the sound quality.

Very interesting
a lot of the music I grew up on where monitored using
JBL Speakers 
I like that vintage sound.
Both Crown and  JBL Where always sold for both home and studio use.
A great example is a Pair iof JBL 4311 paired with a Crown DC 300.
when I was working at ADS I was in the Sound room  wth a couple of the engineers..
We where listening  to a pair of L910s
I remember one of the engineers saying if more music where recorded using these we would have better records today.
of course that was 1978 and gear has drastically changed and improved 
i remember that Telarc Records used ADS In some of their studios.  
To get a better grasp and knowledge on Audiophile purism
do you know of any reading material on the history of The Hi end Hi Fi hobby
Being a Musician on the creative end I am very curious to learn about the mind of the Hi End Listener.
From a musicians stand point we try and capture our creations and performance thru the Recording process.
it then hopefully will be enjoyed to those that buy records.
Interesting subject. My system is a mixture of both. My speakers are JBL 4345s that are bi-amped using an Electro-voice DX38. I have built an external charged coupled crossover for the Mid, High and Ultra high drivers. The 18" woofers are driven by an McIntosh MC2500 and the passive crossover is driven by a McIntosh MC275. All controlled with a McIntosh C2300 Pre. They sound wonderful with a vintage sound but with the charged coupled crossover more detailed.
In the last 15 or so years, Telarc used ATC SCM 150 in studio and SCM 20s for mobile work.

After about 1978, many studios went away from JBL horns, ADS, Urei horns and installed mostly Genelec and ATC for mains. (Horns lost ground as amplifiers became more powerful) Meter bridge monitors would have been a mixed bag with several choices that usually included Yamaha NS10 and sometimes small Tannoy concentrics.

Thank You Shadhorne
I have heard tons about ATC and Genelec.
have not had the pleasure to hear any yet.
The studio I have been recording at in the last decade has Dynaudio which sound great.
I do not know the model but are an 8" two way.
He has recently switched to Old tannoy’s.
They also sound very good.
I am learning a bunch of stuff fast.