I’m confused. Please explain.


Hello everyone. There are quite a lot of posts of people wanting their system to sound like real instruments like you would hear at the symphony. I don’t see the importance of it. I’ve been to the symphony one time recently and it was nice but until then I’ve basically only listened to music  made in a studio, amplified and then mixed. I have been to concerts but even that music was at least  amplified. 
Surely you listen to more than just classical music. Are you saying studio music can somehow be made to sound like symphony instruments? I  want my music to sound like it did when it was recorded if possible. I enjoy many genres of music so I don’t see why I would desire it to sound like I’m at the symphony. I consider my system neutral so it is true to the recording. Thank you for your thoughts. 
 

Regards 

Ron 

 

ronboco

I think the sound of real instruments is only part of the equation. Real instruments as they sound in which space, and from how close? I would not typically want a solo piano piece to sound realistically like I was in the middle of a big auditorium complete with two second reverb time. I want the expensive seat, right up close and personal, and as it would sound in a smaller space with few reflections but that’s just me.

Unless you were in the mastering room where the sonics are finalized, you have no real idea what a specific recording is supposed to sound like.  This applies to acoustic and non-acoustic recordings.  Live, unamplified music is an imperfect reference point, but still it is a reference.  Let's no dismiss it entirely.

My interpretation of the OP is that he seems to think that we all listen to Classical Music as our preferred genre and that we follow Harry Pearson dictum that our systems should approximate the sound of live acoustic instruments in a concert hall.

The first assumption is clearly wrong. While it is true for myself personally tha I exclusively listen to CM, if one spendssome time in the Music Forum and it will become clear that Classical Music is a niche here as it is everywhere. There does seem to be a higher proportion of contributors who listen to CM at least some  timethan the general population.

Regarding the Absolute Sound Goal: 1) It really can’t apply to electrified popular music, where the sound is significantly determined at the mixing console at either a concert or recording venue. There are some classic rock LPs that have been reissued in over 100 mixes. Which one is the correct one? Many albums are recorded by having musicians play parts in different rooms, sometimes different continents apart. 2) it is a ridiculous goal to aspire to for any genre. My listening room is will never approximate the dimensions of a concert hall. A system that would be appropriate to fill that space would sound awful in my home.

I aspire to sound reproduction that makes me forget these issues when I’m listening and is doing a reasonable job of reproducing what the engineers have placed on the source. It’s really up to the sound engineers to take the source and make it sound realistic to a listener

 

My system makes Billy Joel sound like Sir Georg Solti.

 

The goal is to make music sound as close as possible to what is recorded on the medium.   Classical is often used as an example because it is easier to know what a piano sounds like than a rock guitar, as the latter is very dependent on the artist.

When my system was on display at THE Show last month, I got a lot of complements in the form of "the piano really sounds like a piano" or similar.

Unless you were in the mastering room where the sonics are finalized, you have no real idea what a specific recording is supposed to sound like.

That's why every so often I like to make my own live recordings. Although that removes a lot of variables, some remain. The mics, mic preamps, cabling ... it all makes a difference. But it does provide a reference point.