Interconnects, some have directional indicators, why?


I'm curious as to why some interconnects are directional? Is there a physical internal difference and do they generally sound better and cost more than non-directional cables? Thanks for your interest.
phd

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Machina Dynamica’s been numero uno here for like forever..

Dunno about that Geoff, maybe in the deepest depths of the African Congo.

Cheers George
jea48

Your post,
Just look at his website, then you’ll understand, why he can’t
"see the forest through the trees."
http://www.machinadynamica.com/index.html
And he wants money for some of these bizzare things
has corrupted the Agon page 2 of this thread making the page difficult to read.

Please delete the post and re post the post without the last website link, or find another to post in its’ place.

Thank you.


Done, removed, look at that, now the page has returned to a normal view.

Wow!!! he has other ways of doing voodoo as well, it’s like his "buyers cart" link laid a virus into the page.

Maybe he does have magical powers!!!!!!!!

I’m starting to creep myself out.
 
Geoff do you sell these???
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/38/db/ab/38dbab3060dcb41ef107a39d1141beb7.jpg


Cheers George
timrhu
Your right timrhu, we do need comic relief every now an again.
Sad part is, there are the gullible/ill-informed that actually are willing to spend money on the voodoo.
Therefore making money for the many shysters that peddle some of the snake oil.

Cheers George
I don’t dispute that but such does not suggest directionality.
They thought it did Ralph, I tried to find the photo they had which seemed reasonable, but didn’t look really hard.
But the way they explained it in the pics was that normal OFC copper is just round copper molecules all touching and bunched like tiny marbles in a tube, (surface touching area between molecules is minimal)

Where as LC-OFC copper is crystals of copper arrow/rocket shaped each one’s head fitting into the one in fronts tail, yes like male female, each crystal is male and female. A bit like this >>>>>>>>>>>> So there’s far better contact area that molecules, (surface touching area between crystals is maximized)

And the directionality??, is yes the way the head of the crystal points, which could also be a bit of a wank.

Audio Technica started this, I believe Hitachi and Panasonic/Technics also maybe rebadged and sold it as well in the 80’s

But like I said very fragile cable bend it just a little too much and you break that contact area between the crystals, each time causing resistance till the break goes all the way acoss and takes out all the cystals then is open circuit baby.

Cheers George
There was only one wire developed years ago 80’s for audio that I believe was directional. That was Linear Crystal Oxygen Free (LC-OFC) speaker wire from Audio Technica, it was heated up to such a degree it crystalized when it was drawn.

The only problem with it, it could not be bent much at all, otherwise the cystalized copper broke and then created resistance gaps between the crystal gaps. it was like glass, if this happened it became worthy of the bin. I still have some here, sounds like crap because of being abused too much.

http://coregar.c.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_a8b/coregar/LC-OFC_SP.jpg?c=a0

http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/images.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/image/ra115/users/4/5/8/9/aloha7_99-img600x495-1468317494bwpckk2375.jpg

Cheers George
A few people do listen to a piece of wire from a spool, installed backwards and forwards, and then mark the spool for the direction which sounds the best.

This wire on a spool is an air core inductor!!!!!, and not a straight piece of wire that’s "supposed" to be directional, take the wire off the spool so it’s straight and see which way sounds best? This needs to be on geoffkait's website. WHAT VOODOO!!!

Cheers George
Yes differences in dielectric, the way the different insulated conductors are wound/twisted together.
But not in the direction of the copper wire itself, as was stated!!

Cheers George
Did my previous post fall on deaf ears
Yeah, it’s just a reputation thing, I wouldn’t loose sleep over it.

Cheer George
Usually you want the shield grounded at the source only.
I believe the RF should be dumped into the ground of the least sensitive to RF end, being the poweramp.
But hey! 6 of one 1/2 dozen of the other.

Cheers George
I'm curious as to why some interconnects are directional? Is there a physical internal difference and do they generally sound better and cost more than non-directional cables? Thanks for your interest.
phd
My view on it and the way I always make them up on RCA's leads with 2 x internal conductors and a shield, the shield is only used as an RF trap and only connected at one end, (not used as the signal return).
In this case the end that the shield IS connected to the ground wire should be at the least sensitive, being the poweramp not the source, as to dump the RF it catches to ground of least sensitive part of the chain, being the poweramp, not the preamp or the source.

Cheers George   
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