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Interesting experience with a wall wart

I’ve been experiencing some hum in my system. It’s been going on for a few months. It only happens on the turntable input. Both channels (or all channels) equally. No different when I change grounding wires and/or locations, or when I swap tubes on my Eastern Electric Minimax. I tried changing cables, changing cartridges, grounded and non-grounded power cords. No change. It’s gotten so annoying I’ve stopped listening to vinyl.

Sure I could turn the volume down, and/or ignore it, but it’s an annoying hum.

Today, I got inspired. I pulled the rack forward, and started unplugging things. One by one, I eliminated causes. Finally, I found the guilty culprit. It’s a wall wart. 24V DC, driving the turntable motor – a stock motor from Acoustic Solid. Thing is at least 10 years old. Anyway, I plug it in, I hear the hum. Pull it out, the hum is minimal. This is true no matter where I connect the plug – in the rack, a separate outlet, even an extension cord running from the dining room. I tried shielding it with an aluminum sheet, so I don’t think RF is involved, maybe a magnetic field? Or some electrical frequency that is propagating the the house electrical.

I ordered a new “low noise” AC adapter off of ebay for $25, we’ll see if that fixes it.

Any event, thought I’d share. Open to ideas.

P.S. You can see some pics of my Big Sur turntable in my flickr album.
designdude
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ghosthouse
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I wonder if the stock 24V DC wall wart is a "switching" power supply. These are very common. Have read they generate noise that can actually "backwards" contaminate the house AC. A Linear Power Supply (supposedly an inherently lower noise design) is preferred in some applications. If the low noise AC adapter you got off eBay doesn’t work and you don’t feel like spending for a LPS, I wonder if an iFi Power Purifier (see link) would help. Good luck.


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bcowen
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The power feeding a turntable motor can have a profound effect on the resulting sound.  Most wal-warts are switching supplies, and as Ghosthouse notes, can inject a lot of noise into the AC....which affects everything in your system.  You should really consider a linear power supply which will likely pay some nice dividends, and beyond just the sound of your analog rig.  Yup, way more than $25, but if you are a DIY type person there are some nice kits that can get you going for around $200. 

Also, be sure the wal-wart you just purchased can handle the amp draw of your motor.  If not, either it or the turntable motor itself are at risk of an early demise.
sevs
301 posts
 
Switch-mode walwarts should be avoided, just get a transformer-based off eBay. My experience with Linn Akurate SACD player was pretty similar: it sounded nice but its power supply s$&@@-ed (shat?) onto the rest of my rig. Had to get Wadia 781i instead, lesson learned! ;-(
designdude OP
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Thanks for the ideas. I don't know if the existing wall wart is switching or linear. I did do some internet research today - my conclusion was that it's not the architecture, it's the implementation.  (although, I was quite surprised at how much the adapter affected the system, even when connected to an outlet in another room). So, I opted for a quick, low cost solution. If it works, yeah. If not, no harm, no foul. 

As far as option B, I think the next option would be a rechargeable 24V battery. 

BTW,  the existing wall wart has an amp rating of 600mA, the new adapter (switching architecture) is rated at 2 amps.   

designdude OP
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Ghosthouse, that is an interesting little device, could be just the ticket. I will keep it in mind in the event that the new adapter is noisy. 

Also, as an aside, I did have another 24V adapter, rated at 220mA. It has no connector, just raw wires, but a check with a digital multimeter shows it is working. When I plugged this adapter into the system (using the the same outlets as above) I could not hear any difference in the hum.

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