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Jazz for aficionados

Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
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rok2id
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*****But can you deny the impact of the blues in that development of what became jazz out of New Orleans? With that genetic connection I for one can’t completely separate jazz from the blues. *****


No one on this thread has stressed the connection between the Blues and Jazz more than I have. I realize you may have missed a lot of the earlier stuff. The Blues is essential to Jazz. It is the mother of Jazz. Most of the noise posted here is noise precisely because there is no hint of the blues in it.

I know this guy from back in the day. I always thought him some sort of folk singer. He found a niche and made a nice living. Good for him. A white guy from Mississippi singing the Blues was quite the thing with the ’progressive’ set and coffee houses in the northeast.


He does not have the voice, nor the life experiences to sing the blues. What would this guy know about Parchman farm? You wanna hear the blues, try Howlin’ Wolf, Muddy Waters, Albert Collins, Elmore James, Fred McDowell, Big Mama Thronton, or a million other real Blues artist.

An example of what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1g36CXfQ00

The passage at 1:40 ruined this entire performance. Although Nelson is a fine artist in his own right, he does tend to get in over his head when he sings with R&B and Jazz artist. The voice does not fit that type music.


Cheers



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Up in the wilds of upstate NY with VERY limited and sporadic internet, so need to make it quick before it goes down again. Informative and spirited posts all. Thanks! Tying together a few recent mentions:

As nsp points out, Wayne Shorter was Miles’ pick for permanent replacement in what, for me, was the greatest quintet ever; my favorite, anyway. I guess this is not Jazz since I doubt music like this was heard in the bordellos of Mississippi. Hey, Rok how do you know so much about bordellos in Mississippi 😊?

https://youtu.be/-NSJtCdlhe4



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I think Brother Miles and Company  would have been shown the door.   Remember Pops said " If you can't dance to it, it ain't Jazz ".   I didn't say that, Louis Armstrong said it.

The problem is some folks just can't accept Jazz for what it is.   They want to change it, until they like it.   Just like some so-called Christians.

BTW, It was never proven that I was a regular patron at Red Ruby's House of Pleasure.

Cheers

frogman
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**** Remember Pops said " If you can’t dance to it, it ain’t Jazz ". I didn’t say that, Louis Armstrong said it. ****

He also famously said: “Bebop sounds like Chinese music”. I guess bebop is not jazz either.

**** The problem is some folks just can’t accept Jazz for what it is. They want to change it, until they like it. ****

Nah! I think you have it backwards. It is Jazz that can’t accept Jazz for what it is (in a manner of speaking).

Now, about Ruby....

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*****He also famously said: “Bebop sounds like Chinese music”. I guess bebop is not jazz either.*****


I think it was perfectly reasonable that  the music of Bird and Dizzy  would sound like Chinese music to Pop's ears,  Especially when you consider the music that Louis Played, and the music that proceeded Bebop.  I think Chinese is the perfect description of some their stuff.

The new 'Jazz' musicians want to change Jazz music, until they can play it.  I don't blame them.   Everyone has to eat. 

Charlie Rich, the Country singer, thanked Ray Charles for changing Country Music to the point where he, Rich, could sing it.  

At least we have our CDs/LPs, so they can change away!!!


Cheers

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