Jazz for aficionados
*****But can you deny the impact of the blues in that development of what became jazz out of New Orleans? With that genetic connection I for one can’t completely separate jazz from the blues. ***** No one on this thread has stressed the connection between the Blues and Jazz more than I have. I realize you may have missed a lot of the earlier stuff. The Blues is essential to Jazz. It is the mother of Jazz. Most of the noise posted here is noise precisely because there is no hint of the blues in it. I know this guy from back in the day. I always thought him some sort of folk singer. He found a niche and made a nice living. Good for him. A white guy from Mississippi singing the Blues was quite the thing with the ’progressive’ set and coffee houses in the northeast. He does not have the voice, nor the life experiences to sing the blues. What would this guy know about Parchman farm? You wanna hear the blues, try Howlin’ Wolf, Muddy Waters, Albert Collins, Elmore James, Fred McDowell, Big Mama Thronton, or a million other real Blues artist. An example of what I mean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1g36CXfQ00 The passage at 1:40 ruined this entire performance. Although Nelson is a fine artist in his own right, he does tend to get in over his head when he sings with R&B and Jazz artist. The voice does not fit that type music. Cheers |
Up in the wilds of upstate NY with VERY limited and sporadic internet, so need to make it quick before it goes down again. Informative and spirited posts all. Thanks! Tying together a few recent mentions: As nsp points out, Wayne Shorter was Miles’ pick for permanent replacement in what, for me, was the greatest quintet ever; my favorite, anyway. I guess this is not Jazz since I doubt music like this was heard in the bordellos of Mississippi. Hey, Rok how do you know so much about bordellos in Mississippi 😊? https://youtu.be/-NSJtCdlhe4 |
I think Brother Miles and Company would have been shown the door. Remember Pops said " If you can't dance to it, it ain't Jazz ". I didn't say that, Louis Armstrong said it. The problem is some folks just can't accept Jazz for what it is. They want to change it, until they like it. Just like some so-called Christians. BTW, It was never proven that I was a regular patron at Red Ruby's House of Pleasure. Cheers |
**** Remember Pops said " If you can’t dance to it, it ain’t Jazz ". I didn’t say that, Louis Armstrong said it. **** He also famously said: “Bebop sounds like Chinese music”. I guess bebop is not jazz either. **** The problem is some folks just can’t accept Jazz for what it is. They want to change it, until they like it. **** Nah! I think you have it backwards. It is Jazz that can’t accept Jazz for what it is (in a manner of speaking). Now, about Ruby.... |
