Jazz for aficionados

Grant Green

Thanks for the Mark Murphy clips, nsp. Great stuff! O-10 doesn’t remember, but some Mark Murphy clips were posted a while back when we discussed male singers. I like him very much. If I’m not mistaken I posted some clips from this record which features early Brecker brothers:

https://youtu.be/SJLIdyjXrDA

Re Classical music:

As pryso points out, simply because music uses an orchestra does not make the music “Classical” and the music in those clips is definitely not Classical.

The term “Classical” music is typically used to describe a genre of “art music” distinguished from jazz, rock or other popular music; although much of what we now call Classical was, in fact, popular at one time. The genre covers a wide range of styles spanning several centuries. Adding to the confusion is the fact that the term is used generically when, in fact, Classical music is technically music composed during the Classical period (roughly 1750-1850) as opposed to, for instance, the Baroque or Romantic periods. The music can be symphonic, choral, chamber or opera. Additionally, the music adheres to certain compositional disciplines and traditions. As in jazz, the boundaries of these disciplines are always being challenged by composers searching for new sounds and ways of expression. This short description just scratches the surface of the tremendous depth of the compositional skill of the great “Classical” (generic) composers and the techniques that they use in their compositions.

0-10, I know you don’t like Classical music and I suspect you haven’t listened to much of it. I’m glad those clips helped you understand “how all the various musicians in a symphony contribute to the whole”. However, those clips are not very good examples of this for a variety of reasons, starting with the fact that most of the featured instruments are not orchestral instruments at all and not to mention that the “conductor”, while she may be attractive, is not a good conductor. There are far better examples on YouTube of how a symphony orchestra “works” if you are interested. There is a lot of amazing music in the genre; give it a listen.

Every time I attempt to interject a little humor in a clip, I get presented as a total MOWRON. Now it seems that I thought "The Good, The Bad, And the Ugly" was classical music.

First Pryso informs me that it's not, and then after I attempt to clarify this, Frogman informs me again that it's not classical music; well, the MOWRON thanks both of you.

Just as my taste buds tell me what's good food and what's not, so my ear buds tell me what sounds good and what doesn't; oatmeal might be good for me, but I don't like it.

I liked the conductor, the "Wa Wa girl", and the music so much that I looked and listened several times; while you can keep most of your classical music with the oatmeal.

Frogman, the proof of the pudding is in the tasting; if she's not a good conductor, show me; find a better sounding version of what she presented than that one.


     

O-10, no one is calling you names and no one here would.  I apologize if you found anything I wrote to be offensive.  None of it was intended to be a personal attack and I would suggest you go over what you wrote to understand why it gave a certain impression.  

re the conductor:

O-10, by your own admission you know very little about Classical music and don’t listen to it.  Simple statement of fact and not a criticism at all; we don’t all like all genres of music.  So, it follows that a person who doesn’t listen to Classical music would not be able to recognize a good conductor.  Right?  I would be glad to offer more details as to why that is not a very good conductor if you would like to learn a little more about what conducting an orchestra is all about.  Otherwise, good tasting pudding or not, you’ll just have to take my word for it; or not.  Regards.