Jazz for aficionados

0-10 I imagine I have known more classical musicians than you have Jazz musicians , most world class .

None of them were what frogman is, a walking encyclopedia of both genres and no doubt others as well . You can not become that as an act of ego.Love and extreme work at what you do and are is the only route .

He knows that because music is an instinct it would be foolish to tell anyone how they should react as I do with rock @ roll .


He is the surgeon and the rest of us are either listeners , LPN’s or like me, patients .A surgeon seldom tells the patient a story about where he lives or more than an outline about the operation .
In the 5 years or so I have been on here I an as amazed that a musician of his caliber bothers with us as I was the first time he replied to me !


We are very fortunate and blessed by his presence . Period .

Schubert, while what you say is partially true, you are speaking for yourself; I don't know A-Flat from B-Flat, nor do I want to know, that fact rankled Frogman, and it may rankle some others as well; so be it.

I stated who I am and how I feel about jazz at the beginning of this thread and I haven't changed one iota. Like it or not, my presence is the "life" blood of this thread; even the mighty Frogman is lost without it. Have you ever noticed what happens when I stay away?

Sometime ago, our relationship (Frogman and I) took a wrong turn and it's been turning in that same direction every since. A perfect example of Frogman consistently agreeing with anyone on anything when their view is opposite mine occurred just recently;

Frogman's comment

Interesting topic and interesting comments. Tempo IS a major element in the success of an interpretation; and regardless of genre. I had the same reaction as Pryso to one of the recently posted “Lazy Afternoon” clips. I then posted one that I felt was “a lazier Lazy Afternoon” to make the point.

No matter what anyone states that's contrary to my stance, Frogman emphasizes it; that can hardly be honest, because even if the position was reversed, Frogman would still take the opposing position to mine. Pryso stated that "Sonny Clark's" tempo was too fast, and another tempo was too slow, since in both cases it was in opposition to my opinion, Frogman agreed wholeheartedly; that's not honest but political; the same as people consistently taking positions on "Politicians"; no matter how stupid the statement their guy makes, they always agree with him; it's not what is being said, but who is saying it that makes the difference.

When statements are made from the heart, whether I agree or disagree, I "respect" that persons opinion, but as soon as I see a political motivation in regard to an individuals comments, I disregard what they have to say because it's not "honest", and if we can't have "honest" discussions, they become irrelevant.

To the best of my ability, I have "honestly" stated my position.

Very kind of you, Schubert.  I am tempted to say that you give me too much credit, but it is more to the point to say that you don’t give yourself enough credit.  In answer to your question:


From the start I felt that an interesting thread about this great music was a very good resource for the Audiogon community and I felt that there may be value for some to hear a musician’s perspective about it all.  From the start, and putting aside talk of technical matters, the two most important ideas that I hoped the offer of a musician’s perspective might bring to the Aficionado table were:  That the learning process is endless.  There is always much more to learn and I very much include myself in that; I have learned much here in various ways.  Perhaps even more importantly, that true love of the music requires not only respect, but a certain amount of humility.  IOW, love and respect the music and not so much the fact that we love the music.  I could go on, but I think that for anyone that “gets” that message enough has been said.

Regards.

O-10, there is nothing “political” in what I write.  If you cannot bear the idea that someone has a different viewpoint from yours, or that there may be honest agreement among dissenters please don’t make it anyone’s problem but your own. Again, I could say much more, but I am beyond tired of your bs and petty attacks. Look at yourself and your own responses for where the conflict lies. Never too late to change the course of things.

You can add “desperate” and “disingenuous” to the list. Oh, and you are welcome, for saving your thread (literally) from the delete bin.

Rok, I had a problem with my right channel being louder than the left channel. Since I'm an electronics technician who put this rig together with attention to detail; how could that be possible?

That problem nearly drove me crazy, no matter what I did, the problem remained. It wasn't until I had a hearing test that the source of the problem was revealed. Ages ago, in the Air Force, my left ear drum was injured in a rapid decompression incident, and as many injuries, they get worse with old age.

The only solution is headphones, and I hate headphones (can't wear them for long). Now that I know what the problem is, I simply live with the louder right channel.


No, turning up the other channel only makes it worse, because you will hear that sound bouncing off the opposite wall.