https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv9NSR-2DwM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKOoxgI_xfQ
Now we can compare; you are saying the record was OK but the live was 'mysterious', is that correct?
Jazz for aficionados
Jazz for aficionados
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
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Here we go again...... Ok I will try my best to help out with this ongoing trivial distraction which only takes away from the mostly positive experience of JFA. First and foremost since when are jazz aficionados not allowed to have a difference of opinions. This is not 1938 Nazi Germany is it????? That said I will attempt a resolution and address our OP first. I know you are a big Lee Morgan fan and aficionado of his talented trumpet playing. I agree that on the studio album Art Blakey And The Jazz Messengers A Night In Tunisia here: Acoustic Sounds Lee Morgan hits the high registers quite often and sounds great doing it. However it is highly possible that on the live version Morgan could have been doped up, a little drunk, maybe a combination of both, maybe hungover or in need of a "fix" or maybe he was just plain exhausted that particular night. Any of the reasons I have stated could have effected his playing on his solo - THAT PARTICULAR RENDITION RECORDED LIVE THAT NIGHT. frogman the studio solos on a lot of jazz albums are improvised just as in a live setting. Also live recording equipment in those days was sub par and may effect the end result. The reasons I gave O10 above certainly could have an effect on a musician. So yes your opinion that Morgan was unusually playing in the high register on that live recording and on THAT PARTICULAR RECORDING THAT NIGHT sounded "off" is not without merit. YOU BOTH HAVE GOOD POINTS AND I RESPECT BOTH OPINIONS Can we get back to posting JFA??????????? |
pjw, I appreciate your effort at peace and equanimity, but I think the issue is not the differences of opinion and their relative merit, but the inability to have and express an opinion without the retort being abrasive and condescending. Expressing the details of why one holds a particular opinion should be an opportunity to, if not learn, understand a different point of view. Blanket dismissal of an opinion without offering any specific reasons why won’t hold water and is an opportunity lost because there is so much going on in this music. For instance, you wrote: **** frogman the studio solos on a lot of jazz albums are improvised just as in a live setting. **** Of course. I hope I didn’t write anything that caused you to think that I thought differently. I said nothing of the sort. So, wouldn’t it be best to be able to have a dialogue about the reasons why the disconnect may exist? It does all go directly to the music. I think so. |
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