Manley Chinook SE MK2


What phono preamp and how much would it take to better the Manley? I ask mainly because I have one and considering upgrading. I know it's been stated that it takes $5k upwards to better it but curious of some real world experiences.  

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I am not a big fan of tube phono stages and I had a PH3 SE for decades. There are many SS phono stages that will outperform the Manley. The Sutherland Little Loco and the Channel D Lino C come to mind right off the top. 

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should chime in on this one. 

What about adding a SUT? Was recommended by a friend it's a substantial improvement. 

Define “outperform “.

Di you mean”sounds better”, “quieter “, more gain, or what?

 By the way, if the Chinook is like the Steelhead, the gain stage is a tube/transistor hybrid cascode and is remarkably quiet with a very wide bandwidth.

"How does the PL differ in presentation?"

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For whatever reason, the PL is more convincing/realstic. 

I don't know why it would make a difference, but the PL is all tube-MC gain and rectification. 

Manley and most others are FET/transformer gain and SS rectification. 

Not a "better" thing, just what my ears like. The phonostage I demoed against the Chinook and a couple others before I had the PL, is all tube. 

Tube gain is noisier for the "ear to the speaker type."