Many questions about HT pass-through options


I'm trying to consolidate/simplify equipment in my dual purpose (2 channel and home theater) media room. The net is I want to use the same amplifiers and front speakers for both systems without recabling each time I switch.

I'm completely satisfied with my preamp (Musical Fidelity Nu-Vista) and prefer not to swap it out, but want to easily switch 5.1 (via my pre-pro) to 2 channel and back.

I'm considering a new preamp with home theater passthru, or equivalent alternatives not requiring a new pre.

My questions:

1) Exactly how is HT passthrough implemented in audiophile preamps? Is it simply a high quality switch, or is there something more to it?
2) I read in one post that the standard tape loop can be used for bypass. Is this true? Has anyone done it? Isn't there a risk to the internal circuitry of my preamp?
3) In lieu of a new preamp, is there high quality selector switch that doesn't cost a small fortune? Has anyone made one DIY, and if so, can you recommend good switch parts?

Finally - any recommndations for a good quality preamp, preferably Tube, with a really good phone section, passtrhu, and remote controllable. Budget is in the $1500 range used.

any and all advice or opinion is welcome, and appreciated
bdgregory
I just happened to see this thread after posting on your other one. I didn't realize you had the MF pre so some of my comments regarding the virtues of a 2 ch. pre vs. a pre/pro are irrelevant. I just picked up an ARC SP16 which has the HT pass through. I can’t comment on the phono section, I don’t do vinyl, but the pass through definitely improves the surround sound listening experience over using a pre without the pass through, setting the volume at 12 o’clock, etc. I still say that for music though you’ll eventually come back to 2 channel so it may be an exercise in futility.
Assuming you integrate a pre-amp with a pass through function, does the pre-amp in the pass through mode pass on any of the sonic benefits associated with it when you are listening to it in the 2 channel configuration. Is there a sonic benefit to going through the pre-amp pass through as opposed to taking the surround sound processor straight to the amplifier? Having a pre-amp incorporated into the system certainly is a benefit for CD listening, but I'd like to hear perspectives if the pre-amp pass through also provides any benefit to HT listening, specifically HT concert DVD's.
The volume control on your preamp is probably much better than what is on your pre-processor, so any degradation resulting from going through both volume controls would likely be virtually unnoticeable. I have tried it both ways and IME the HT pass-thru feature is simply more convenient but no better sounding.
thanks to all of the posters, and I appreciate the additional comments re: the virtues/tradeoffs of using my MF Pre especially.

Last night I did it. I removed the extra speakers and amp, and connected my front channel outs into "aux 2" on the MF. I indeed set the MF volume at 12 o'clock, which is easy to remember and set whenever I switch to HT, and didn't require much adjustment in the pre-pro (ie from 0 db) in order to balance speaker volume levels.

I didn't do an A-B to see if there was any degradation, but really didn't notice anything from the little bit I played last night. It sounded great, except I have a little ground loop problem I need to resolve. Since my existing HT has been a true "bottom feeder" assembly and the sound wasn't really audiophile quality in the first place, so this will be at least as good. More importantly, it gives me the opportunity improve it and approach audiophile. I save $ from one amp, one set of speakers, not to mention removing equipment clutter from the room (yes, I actually had 2 sets of speakers in the fronts - one set for each system).

At some point I'll get the bug to buy a new preamp (yea, just because it's what we do) with HT passthru, but this for now is great, and much easier than I even hoped for to implement.

Next up is to swap speakers. I just picked up a Von Schweikert LCR-15 for my center. I currently have Mani-2s set up in this room and will move them into my dedicated 2 channel room, bring my VSA VR4-IIIs from that room to run as mains, and will have VSA VR3's running in the rear. This will be the first time I've had all channels in the HT running the same brand, closely matched speakers, so I'm really looking forward to the result.

thanks again, Brad G.
Brad,

Glad it all worked out for you (so far). Enjoy the new combo system!

TIC